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If anybody knows the adress of Elena Tropsha who came to US from
Mosckow in 1985-89 mail it to me please.
Elena got her PhD from Mosckow University and worked
in Petrochemical Institute of Academy of Science.
My e-mail is csberfel@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il.
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15/01/1996
Privet, narody!
S 9 utra v stanice Pervomajskoj idet boj s primeneniem artillerii
i aviacii. Oficial'no eto nazyvaetsja "operacija special'nyh sil po
osvobozhdeniju zalozhnikov". Svedenija o poterjah, soobschaemye
storonami, protivorechivye (v desjatki raz). Selo k nochi pochti
polnost'ju sgorelo, zalozhniki, vidimo, perevedeny v betonnyj
bunker. Ne poluchili nikakogo nezavisimogo podtverzhdenija soobschenija
FSB (so ssylkoj na radioperehvaty), chto Raduev rasstreljal shest'
OMONovcev i dagestanskih starejshin (poslednee - vidimo, lozh'
bezuslovnaja). Vo vsjakom sluchae, jasno odno - zalozhnikov vlasti
"spisali v rashod".
V vechernej peredache novostej "Vesti" pokazali kartinku,
illjustrirujuschuju povtorennye v techenie dnja mnogo raz slova, chto
osvobozhdeny 9 zalozhnikov. Pokazali primerno treh iz nih (dvuh
dagestancev i odnogo russkogo), vid oni imeli rasterzannyj, odin
pozhalovalsja na sil'nyj holod. Strannyj rakurs, v kotorom ih
pokazyvali (ochen' krupnym planom sverhu, tak chto v kadre lico i
chast' grudi), a takzhe zhaloba raz'jasnilis' dostatochno sluchajno - v
konce sjuzheta kamera motnulas' v storonu, i polsekundy byl viden
obschij plan. "Osvobozhdennye" zalozhniki STOJaLI NA SNEGU NA KOLENJaH
POD PRICELOM dlinnostvol'nyh avtomatov. V ostal'nyh peredachah
novostej te zhe kadry sverhu-vblizi, no redaktura gramotnee.
"Tak vot ona, VAShA svoboda..."
Alik
PS Podrobnee napishu posle uzhe skoroj razvjazki. Tut esche mnogo chego
proishodit. E naznachil Glavoj Administracii Prezidenta Nikolaja
Egorova, byvshego "prokuratora Chechni", cheloveka otkrovenno
fashistskih ubezhdenij, vybrav naibolee udachnyj den' dlja ob'javlenija
- segodnja. V obschem, do zavtrashnego dnja. "Esli eto mozhno nazvat'
dnem".
A.
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Tragedija Kizljara (2)
11/01/1996
Hi folks!
Kak i predpolagalos', boeviki iz gruppy Radueva bystro uvjali,
otkazalis' ot vseh trebovanij politicheskogo haraktera,
ostalis' tol'ko - vypustit' ih. V rezul'tate, zabrav 150
zalozhnikov, iz nih okolo 30 ili 50 zhenschin i detej i 8 vysshih
dolzhnostnyh lic Dagestana (zam. spikera, neskol'ko ministrov
i zamministrov), oni vyehali po shosse, iduschemu vdol'
jugo-vostochnogo (pravogo) berega Tereka.
Dva dnja nachal'niki izobrazhali uverennost' i krovozhadnost'
(mol, vseh ub'em ljuboj cenoj), no E. ih rezko odernul.
Formulirovka zasluzhivaet interesa: "El'cin ne Stalin, a
Barsukov ne Berija". Vse proishodjaschee s kazhdym chasom delalos'
vse zagadochnee. Suetlivoe i strannoe povedenie "Dudaevskogo
zjatja" (na samom dele muzha trojurodnoj sestry), javnoe zhelanie
ego i ego ljudej kak-to ostat'sja v zhivyh, predskazuemoe
negodovanie dagestancev i drugih kavkazcev usugubljali
neponimanie smysla i celej terakta. Dudaev s podozritel'noj
bystrotoj priznal, chto neset polnuju otvetstvennost' za
proishodjaschee - obychno on temnit i staraetsja ne govorit'
nichego objazyvajuschego. Stoit otmetit', chto udar posledoval
cherez dva dnja posle prikaza Mashadova prekratit' napadenija na
rossijskie vojska - javnoj popytki esli ne predotvratit'
neizbezhnoe i zaplanirovannoe russkoe nastuplenie, to hotja by
vyigrat' propagandistskie ochki. Interesen etot parallelizm v
podstavke "pervymi" svoih "delovyh pomoschnikov".
Otstuplenie Radueva iz Kizljara imelo tozhe strannyj vid. 11
avtobusov i dva KAMAZa s boevikami (chislom okolo 100) i
zalozhnikami mchalis' po doroge (do mosta cherez Terek na
chechenskij bereg tam okolo 50 km po horoshej doroge), a vokrug
kruzhili boevye vertolety i... postrelivali v storonu kolonny!
Utverzhdaetsja, chto bylo popadanie v mashinu soprovozhdenija GAI
Dagestana. Pod'ehav k reke, oni obnaruzhili, chto Shelkovskij
most - vzorvan (vidimo, neskol'ko chasov nazad). Posle etogo
kolonna rinulas' k raspolozhennoj v 7 km stanice Pervomajskoj,
zahvatila blok-post Novosibirskogo OMONa na v'ezde v stanicu,
dobavila k zalozhnikam 38 bojcov i okopalas' v chistom pole.
Vokrug nachali stjagivat'sja tanki i drugie vojska.
Ves' segodnjashnij den' shli peregovory, itogom kotoryh stalo
soglashenie, chto boevikov propustjat v Chechnju, a oni osvobodjat
zalozhnikov. Po rossijskoj versii, vseh i srazu, po raduevskoj
- srazu tol'ko zhenschin i detej. Iz-za etogo nesovpadenija
okonchatel'nogo reshenija ne bylo dostignuto. Boeviki zanjali vse
selo i pereveli zalozhnikov v shkolu i mechet'. V poslednij
moment postupili soobschenija, chto Raduev udovletvoritsja
pis'mennymi garantijami i kakim-to minimumom zalozhnikov, a
Rossija snjala zapret na proezd kolonny kruzhnym putem cherez
Hasav'jurt. Tut nastupila noch'. Budem zhdat', chto prineset
utro, i nadejat'sja.
Ob ocenkah sobytij. O reakcii v Dagestane ja uzhe govoril.
Vpervye eta akcija vyzvala neodobrenie i v Chechne - dovol'no
massovoe. Osudil terakt prezident Ingushetii. Vosem' drugih
liderov Severnogo Kavkaza vernopoddanicheski prosjat E.
poskoree usmirit' Chechnju.
V Rossii mnogie protivniki vojny - iz naibolee oficioznyh,
vprochem - paralizovany strahom. Predpolagalos' massovoe
otstupnichestvo podpisantov pod pis'mom protesta protiv
prodolzhenija vojny, opublikovannym za paru dnej do sobytij.
Odnako, po slovam avtora i koordinatora kampanii Julija Kima,
naskol'ko emu izvestno, nikto iz 100 podpisantov ne snjal
podpis' i ne izmenil svoej pozicii. Po nyneshnim vremenam eto
uzhe muzhestvo, hotja i ne takoe _poka_, kak v 68-m. Bolee togo,
analogichnoe pis'mo podpisali uzhe vchera 66 intelligentov iz
Pitera, sredi nih akad. D.Lihachev.
Lidery partij uklonjajutsja ot vystuplenij na etu temu, vtorye
lica obychno vystupajut s pozicij "vojny do pobednogo konca".
Iskljuchenie poka sostavil Javlinskij, vystupivshij s obychnym po
soderzhaniju antimilitaristskim zajavleniem, no dovol'no
vzvinchennym (vidimo, boitsja). V zajavlenii on ne preminul
ukazat', chto terakt v Kizljare sootvetstvuet sokrovennym celjam
Kremlja. Chto, verojatno, verno, no ne daet nikakogo kljucha k
tajne - svjazany li eti fakty esche i prichinno.
Alik
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TRAGEDIJa KIZLJaRA - NEKOTORYE DETALI.
9/01/1996
Verojatno, kogda vy budete chitat' etot tekst, uzhe sovershitsja krovavaja
razvjazka sobytij v dagestanskom gorode Kizljare, nachavshihsja v noch' na
9/01 zahvatom, tochno po Budennovskomu scenariju, bol'nicy i
prilegajuschih zdanij gruppoj chechenskogo komandira Salmana Radueva.
Hotja proishodjat peregovory s uchastiem starejshin Kizljara, oficial'nye
sredstva informacii ne skryvajut, chto specnazu otdan prikaz o polnom
unichtozhenii boevikov, uderzhivajuschih 3000 zalozhnikov, nevziraja na
vozmozhnye poteri.
Kizljar nahoditsja v del'te Tereka, primerno na 70 km na sever ot
rajonov, v kotoryh dejstvuet chechenskoe Soprotivlenie. Otrjad Radueva
(okolo 600 bojcov) proehal ne tol'ko cherez milicejskie posty
(opjat'-taki pri pomoschi pred'javlenija universal'nyh propuskov zelenogo
cveta), no i cherez dva posta pogranvojsk. Vmeste s tem, neskol'ko
zagrazhdenij na shosse bylo razgromleno, ih zaschitniki soobschili o
proishodjaschem dal'she - no eto pochemu-to ne vozymelo effekta. V
Kizljare dislocirovany chasti pogranvojsk i tylovye podrazdelenija
gruppirovki v Chechne, v tom chisle voennyj aerodrom. Vse eti sily ne
tol'ko ne dali ser'eznogo otpora, no i okazalis' chastichno
blokirovany. Ves' den' v gorode shli tjazhelye boi.
"Strannosti"
Po-vidimomu, na etot raz imelis' dovol'no tochnye razveddannye -
prichem s ukazaniem imenno na Kizljar, i dovol'no tochnoj lokalizaciej
vremeni napadenija. Segodnja ob etom ob'javila administracija "glavy
chechenskoj respubliki" Zavgaeva, i voennye istochniki v Moskve eto
podtverzhdajut. Odnako nikakih mer prinjato ne bylo, nevziraja dazhe na
arest organami neskol'kih oficerov-pogranichnikov v etom rajone pri
dostavke dudaevcam krupnoj partii oruzhija neskol'ko dnej nazad.
Mesto napadenija. Otnoshenie dagestancev k Chechne - slozhnoe, hrupkaja
simpatija ili terpimost' mogut legko smenit'sja vrazhdoj (avarskie i
lakskie nacionalisticheskie dvizhenija uzhe prizyvajut k vozmezdiju). S
tochki zrenija davlenija na russkoe obschestvennoe mnenie - tem bolee.
Russkij obyvatel' ne razlichaet chechencev i dagestancev, i shoka,
podobnogo budennovskomu, ne budet (pravda, sredi zalozhnikov vse zhe
mnogo russkih).
Salman Raduev - maloizvesten kak komandir (on - prefekt Gudermesa,
no ne iz-za delovyh kachestv - on svojstvennik Dudaeva). Ego otrjad ne
podchinjaetsja Aslanu Mashadovu. On dovol'no molod (let 28), ne slishkom
umen, ne imeet boevogo opyta - v obschem, ne mozhet byt' postavlen
rjadom s Shamilem Basaevym (kak k nemu ni otnosit'sja - krupnejshim
voenachal'nikom). Tem bolee neponjatno, kak emu udalos' prorvat'sja v
Kizljar.
Otkliki i perspektivy
Povodom dlja vyjavlenija pozicij moskovskih partij i klik stalo ne samo
sobytie, a iduschaja iz Kremlja volna pokaznoj reshimosti. Liberaly
(gajdarovcy) solidarizirovalis' s "reshitel'nym kursom" vlastej,
mjagko napomniv o neodobrenii samoj vojny (kotoraja, vprochem, "ne
izvinjaet prestupnyh dejstvij" boevikov). Kommunisty, pohozhe,
sobirajutsja zanjat' poziciju "my zhe preduprezhdali", ozhidaja, chto
prezident v ljubom sluchae proigraet - krovavaja operacija budet
vygljadet' kak minimum uzhasno, a skorej vsego i neprofessional'no.
Po-vidimomu, Kizljar - konec (ili gromadnaja pauza) v politicheskoj
biografii Chernomyrdina. Krome togo, eto povod peresherstit' silovye
struktury. Rezko vozrastaet rol' koordinatora operacii, shefa KGB
Barsukova - cheloveka iz blizhajshego okruzhenija E. Pri etom nejasno,
sdelana li rezhisserami dramy stavka na ocherednuju popytku perelomit'
nastroenija v Rossii demonstrativnym projavleniem sily i spasti
kar'eru E. ili u nih svoi, nezavisimye ot nego plany. Vo vsjakom
sluchae, ochevidnyj rezul'tat kizljarskoj tragedii - rasshirenie
konflikta i prevraschenie Kavkaza v zonu "vojny vseh protiv vseh", a
zainteresovannye v etom est' i v Kremle, i v chechenskih gorah.
Kstati, sredi voennyh ekspertov v Rossii proishodit sejchas
zamechatel'noe "donashivanie kogda-to modnyh v Parizhe shljapok". V to
vremja kak oni pochti horom prizyvajut "nakonec-to perenjat' reshitel'nuju
poziciju zapadnyh pravitel'stv po otnosheniju k terroristam", pervaja
reakcija izrail'skih i amerikanskih ekspertov po terroru, naskol'ko ja
znaju, byla "bez politicheskih ustupok policejskie mery mogut byt'
lish' lokal'no uspeshnymi, okonchatel'nyj uspeh daet politicheskij
kompromiss". Eksperty zhe politicheskie (nashi) shodjatsja na tom, chto
tragedija - chast' predvybornoj kampanii E., chto Chernomyrdin utoplen
nadezhno, no chto E. tozhe mozhet ne vyigrat'. Dazhe vpolne
"respektabel'nye" proiznosjat chto-to vrode "knopka, vyzvavshaja vzryv,
pohozhe, nahoditsja v Kremle".
Vash Alik
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Dear IR-Netters,
I am looking for somebody who is going FROM Moscow TO New York or Boston
shortly and can do me a favor and bring with him/her a small package with a
Russian medicine for my friend's father-in-law (do not lough: some old
people cannot get used to new for them miraculous American medications and
still need good old familiar Russian ones...).
Please reply directly to me.
Thank you,
Valery Fradkov
fradkv@rpi.edu
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Hello everyone,
Here is my problem:
I am looking for my friend I lost touch with about 4 years ago. Her
name is Tatiana Vol'pina (I am not sure in English spelling). She was my
classmate and has to be 24 years old now. She and
her family (father David, mather Yevgenia and younger sister Lubov')
left Moscow in November 1991 (as far as I remember). They went to
David's brother in New York. Unfortunately, I did not know their further
plans.
If you know anything about this family or you know the way how to find
a person in America, please, reply me by phone or e-mail: I will be VERY,
VERY appreciative.
My home phone number: (818)792-3733.
Thank you,
-Yulya
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* Julia S. Goreva
* Graduate Student
* Division of Geological and Planetary Sciences
* California Institute of Technology
* (818)395-6135 (o)
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Vlasti otkazalis' prinjat' zalozhnikov
17/01/1996
Boj v Pervomajske prodolzhaetsja. Segodnja voennye vlasti
oficial'no ob'javili, chto snimajut s povestki dnja vopros o
vyzhivanii zalozhnikov - vojskam prikazano ne prinimat' bol'she
etot faktor v raschet. V opravdanie oni soslalis' na "dannye
radioperehvatov" (opjat'!), soglasno kotorym, po odnoj versii,
zalozhniki uzhe pogibli, a po drugoj, Raduev otdal prikaz ih
rasstreljat'. Mezhdu tem chechency peredajut po radio iz
Pervomajskogo obraschenija zalozhnikov s pros'bami spasti ih
zhizni. V nastojaschee vremja oprovergnuty vse ranee delavshiesja
zajavlenija FSK "po dannym radioperehvatov" o rasstrele
zalozhnikov i starejshin pered nachalom shturma (kak ja i
predpolagal).
Po zajavleniju dudaevskogo ministra informacii Udugova,
segodnja dnem Raduev obratilsja po radio k rossijskim vlastjam s
predlozheniem OSVOBODIT' BEZ VSJaKIH USLOVIJ ZALOZhNIKOV -
grazhdanskih lic, dlja chego prekratit' ogon' na vremja,
neobhodimoe dlja ih vyhoda s belym flagom. Eto predlozhenie
bylo otvergnuto "v neprilichnoj forme". Vsego, po uverenijam
rossijskih vlastej, spaseno 21 (po drugoj versii 26)
zalozhnikov iz 150. Vse oni izolirovany ot vneshnego mira,
chtoby predotvratit' "effekt Budennovska", kogda rasskazy
zalozhnikov ob obraschenii s nimi so storony terroristov i
"spasatelej" sygrali plohuju propagandnuju rol'. Dlja davlenija
na nih ispol'zujut massovoe vydvizhenie obvinenij v perehode na
storonu vraga i dobrovol'noj sdache v plen (dlja
voennosluzhaschih).
Stoit otmetit', chto operacija v Pervomajskoj NIKOGDA ne nosila
haraktera popytki osvobozhdenija zalozhnikov, no tol'ko segodnja
eto priznano oficial'no. Nado skazat', chto v Dagestane
proizoshla rezkaja smena nastroenij, i nenavist' k Dudaevu i
chechencam smenilas' na jarost' protiv Rossii. Pri etom vysshie
dolzhnostnye lica Dagestana (ministr nacional'nostej) otkryto
obvinili rossijskie vlasti v predatel'stve zalozhnikov i
Dagestana. Im podtverzhdeno napadenie federalov na kolonnu s
zalozhnikami, v kotoroj on sostojal, u Shelkovskogo mosta (7 km
ot Pervomajskogo).
Inoj harakter imeet evoljucija obschestvennogo mnenija v
sobstvenno Rossii. Dlja massovoj mental'nosti russkih
neharakterno sochuvstvie zalozhnikam (etnicheski blizkim k
chechencam avarcam), a nachalo operacii v ponedel'nik utrom bylo
vosprinjato kak znak probuzhdenija "derzhavy" ot letargii (hotja
vsem bylo ochevidno, chto zalozhniki, skoree vsego, ee ne
perezhivut). Telefonnyj ekspress-opros v Moskve dal dnem v
ponedel'nik podderzhku operacii v proporcii 44 : 36. Na
izmenenie ocenki situacii etoj chast'ju naselenija povlijaet,
verojatno, ne gibel' mirnyh ljudej i plennyh, a pozornoe s
voennoj tochki zrenija provedenie operacii. Chut' bolee 100
chechencev iz raznosherstnogo otrjada troe sutok otbivajut ataki
tysjach soldat, vooruzhennyh artilleriej (v tom chisle
"Gradami"), desjatkom vertoletov, bronetehnikoj, soldat iz
superelitnyh vojsk - kak armii, tak i specnazov "Al'fa" i
"Vitjaz'". Ochevidnaja nelepost' pobednyh reljacij (selo bylo
"pochti polnost'ju zanjato" uzhe vecherom v ponedel'nik, i potom
ego "zanimali" snova i snova) zastavljaet bolee doverjat'
chechenskim istochnikam i po voprosu o poterjah - a oni govorjat o
bolee chem 200 ubityh s rossijskoj storony. Stav na pozicii
poklonnikov "sily i tverdosti", RAVNO OTVLEKAJaS' ot
amoral'noj i prestupnoj suti kak chechenskogo rejda na
bol'nicu, tak i russkogo rasstrela zalozhnikov, my vidim v
Pervomajskom ocherednoe pozornoe voennoe porazhenie el'cinskoj
Rossii.
Vse eto tem bolee primechatel'no, chto akcija javno byla
predprinjata v kachestve udarnogo nachala predvybornoj kampanii
BNE. Nedarom imenno v ee razgar rasporjazheniem E. byl
obrazovan Shtab prezidentskoj predvybornoj kampanii. I snachala
eto bylo sdelano dazhe gramotno. El'cin spustil s cepi voennyh
i "publicistov", a sam vystupil oplotom mira i spasenija
zalozhnikov. V to zhe vremja davalos' ponjat' (dazhe v uscherb
shansam na spasenie zalozhnikov), chto srazu posle osvobozhdenija
ljudej Radueva unichtozhat, a Chechnju podvergnut kollektivnomu
vozmezdiju. Vse eto moglo srabotat', no vmesto etogo plana
(kotoryj mozhno bylo osuschestvit' dazhe posle vzryva Shelkovskogo
mosta) byl predprinjat shturm. Moja versija - u vlastej NA SAMOM
DELE NET nikakih "antiterroristicheskih formirovanij", i oni
byli uvereny, chto terroristy uskol'znut. No E. sovershil esche
odnu, sovsem strannuju oshibku. V ponedel'nik, vystupaja (okolo
15 chasov dnja) po TV, on zajavil, chto operacija okonchitsja uzhe
segodnja, chto ona "velikolepno podgotovlena", posle chego,
okonchatel'no vpav v detstvo, vodil rukami, pokazyvaja, kak
snajpery vodjat dulom vsled chechencam ("38, ponimaesh', odnih
snajperov tam"), i kak zigzagami razbegajutsja vrassypnuju
zalozhniki ot terroristov pod prikrytiem dymovoj zavesy. Pri
etom, sudja po vsemu, p'jan ne byl. Ja vizhu tol'ko odno
ob'jasnenie - u nas demokratija, i chekisty POTChUJuT PREZIDENTA
TOJ ZhE PROPAGANDOJ, chto i naselenie. A on ej verit. Vokrug
etogo cheloveka, pohozhe, nam cherez polgoda predlozhat
splotit'sja...
Propaganda, kstati - trevozhnyj simptom. Zhurnalisty vorchat na
blokadu i izoljaciju, no ispravno gonjat v efir razrabotki COS
FSK, pochti nikogda ne upominaja, chto rech' idet o dannyh, ne
proverennyh nezavisimo. Soglasie telezhurnalistov na cenzuru
pri pokaze zalozhnikov, o chem ja pisal v proshlom pis'me - v tom
chisle zhurnalistov NTV, pritom na cenzuru ChISTO POLITIChESKUJu,
bez vsjakih soobrazhenij bezopasnosti - vpechatljaet i pugaet.
Vprochem, kogda rech' idet ne o Pervomajske, cenzura i
tendencioznost' ne tak sil'ny. Narjadu s soobschenijami o novyh
[pro]chechenskih teraktah (v Groznom i v Turcii) nashi gazety
publikujut fotografii i soobschenija o novyh naletah rossijskoj
aviacii na naselennye punkty Chechni, v tom chisle o bombezhke
Groznogo (!).
A v obschem, vybory prezidenta - delo ser'eznoe, eto vam ne
vojna kakaja-to.
Vash Alik
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"Razgrom"
19/01/1996
Segodnja g-n E, esche ne znaja ob uspeshnom osvobozhdenii turkami
vseh zalozhnikov s paroma "Avrazija", pozhuril tureckie vlasti
za neaktivnost' i skazal, chto sily Chernomorskogo flota
nagotove (vidimo, nanosit' po paromu aviacionnye i
artillerijskie udary). On takzhe posetoval na nedostatok v
gruppirovke flota podvodnyh lodok dlja etoj operacii.
Zagadka: kto poluchitsja, esli otnjat' u Zhirinovskogo ostroumie
i blesk, a ostavit' tol'ko tupost' i brutal'nost'?
Korrespondent "Izvestij" Valerij Jakov, neskol'ko dnej
chislivshijsja propavshim, kak okazalos', probralsja v stanicu i
vyshel ottuda pered samym shturmom. On dostavil interesnye
videomaterialy i vnov' podtverdil smehotvornost' zajavlenij E.
o dudaevskoj baze v Pervomajskoj. Takzhe zalozhnik Arkadij
Dubinenko iz Kizljarskoj bol'nicy oproverg kakie-libo
rasstrely zalozhnikov i podtverdil, chto prorvavshijsja otrjad
Radueva uvel s soboj pochti vseh milicionerov i neskol'ko
desjatkov drugih muzhchin, i to, chto vecherom v sredu Raduev
pytalsja dobit'sja vyhoda iz sela osvobozhdennyh im zalozhnikov.
Sejchas selo plotno zakryto dlja zhurnalistov, v nem "navodjat
porjadok" chekisty. Ob'javleno, chto ubito 150 boevikov i ni
odnogo zalozhnika, chto absoljutno nepravdopodobno. Kakim
obrazom vlasti sobirajutsja obosnovyvat' etu lozh', vidno iz
putanogo zajavlenija E, chto "my sperva dumali, ChTO TAM BOL'ShE
ZALOZhNIKOV, no tam okazalis' raby terroristov, chislom okolo
60, vot ih okazalos' i men'she". Takim obrazom, gotovitsja
pochva dlja ob'javlenija vseh trupov, najdennyh v sele, trupami
terroristov, nezavisimo ot rezul'tatov opoznanija (ih men'she
150, no est' trupy v plavnjah i na pole mezhdu selom i
plavnjami, gde shel boj v noch' na chetverg). Baza podgotovlena
takzhe neodnokratnymi zajavlenijami, chto sredi terroristov
"dovol'no mnogo zhenschin" (verojatno, skazhut, chto i detej).
Po zajavleniju Aslana Mashadova, on ne planiroval i ne odobrjal
operaciju v Kizljare, no prinjal na sebja komandovanie operaciej
po proryvu blokady Pervomajskoj izvne. Po ego slovam, vo
vneshnem (osnovnom - na soedinenie i otvlekajuschih udarah)
uchastvovalo 400 bojcov. "Operacija po deblokade proshla
uspeshno, otrjad Radueva s bol'shoj gruppoj zalozhnikov nahoditsja
sejchas v gorah". Po ego slovam, v otrjade Radueva bylo 250
bojcov, zalozhnikov bylo 200. Do nochi na chetverg pogiblo 17
chechencev i 15 zalozhnikov, dal'nejshie poteri esche ne
ustanovleny. On dobavil, chto prikaz na proryv byl dan tol'ko
posle togo, kak vlasti ob'javili, chto "zalozhnikov bol'she net v
zhivyh" (eto bylo v sredu), i stalo jasno, chto selo smetut
shkval'nym ognem.
Ne doverjaja osobenno ego ocenke poter' (na kotoroj on i ne
nastaivaet), ja sklonen doverjat' privodimym im cifram
nachal'noj chislennosti, i oni prolivajut svet na to, chto na
samom dele proizoshlo v Pervomajskoj. Kogda i esli El'cin
budet pisat' memuary, ja posovetuju emu nazvat' ih - "Razgrom".
Vash Alik
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Forwarded message #1
Date: Thu Jan 18, 1996 7:35 pm EST
From: The Union of Councils for Soviet Jews / MCI ID: 420-1773
ACTION ALERT
To: Concerned Parties
Fr: Pamela Cohen, UCSJ National President; Micah Naftalin, UCSJ National Director
Dt: January 17, 1996
Re: NEO-NAZIS BESIEGE JEWISH MEETING IN OREL, RUSSIA:
MAYOR, MILITIA DENY THREATS TO JEWS
Jewish activists from the city of Orel in Central Russia, and the Russian
newspaper "Express Chronicle," have reported that the anti-Semitic paramilitary
group Russian National Unity (RNU) attempted to disrupt a meeting of Jewish
leaders, and that the local police officials refused to intervene on behalf of the
Jewish community. Below you will find an urgent request for action from the
Orel Jewish activists, and background information on the incident.
ACTION REQUESTED
Activists in Orel urgently request that letters protesting the absence of official
condemnation be sent to the mayor of Orel. They urge also that copies of letters
be sent to the UCSJ to be forwarded to them in Orel. Without such confirmation,
the mayor will deny having received any protests.
Please send your letter to: Please send your copy to:
(postage 60 cents) Union of Councils
The Honorable A.G. Kislakov 1819 H St., NW, Suite 230
Mayor of Orel Washington, DC 20006
Ul. Proletarskaya Gora d.1 (202) 775-9770; (202) 775-9776 fax
Orel, Russia 302000 email: 4201773@mcimail.com
BACKGROUND
Members of the anti-semitic, right-wing paramilitary group, "Russian National
Unity" (RNU) tried to disrupt a meeting between the Jewish community of Orel,
Russia and a representative of the Jewish Agency of Israel (Sochnut), according
to Express-Chronicle and confirmed by activists in Orel. A notice of the January
14th meeting appeared in Orel's regional newspaper.
About 20 supporters of Alexander Barkashov, the national leader of the far-right
RNU, in military uniforms with armbands and banners bearing red swastikas,
gathered across from the Philharmonic hall where the Sochnut meeting was being
held. They sold copies of their Moscow-published paper, "Russian Order" and
called out "Death to Jews."
Leonid Volovik, the head of the Jewish Community, called the militia who upon
arrival said the "did not see any disruption of the public order." When asked
whether the call to kill Jews is not a violation of the public order, they denied
hearing it.
At a press briefing on the following day, Alexei Kondratkenko of the Department
of Press Service of the City Government said they knew nothing of the event.
Although the local state television station did not broadcast the demonstration
itself, it covered a report of the press briefing.
About 3000 Jews comprise the Jewish community in Orel. Orel activist Semen
Livshits has charged previously that the community has experienced anti-semitism
in its attempts to regain the synagogue building confiscated during the Soviet
era.
Dmitrii Fattakhov Action Alert:
Update: We have received word that the health of Dmitrii Fattakhov (the young
Uzbek Jew falsely imprisoned for murder) is deteriorating rapidly. UCSJ is
requesting urgent phone calls to Uzbek officials urging that they use their
offices to release Dmitrii to Israel for treatment.
If you are unfamiliar with this case and require information, please contact the
Union of Councils for Soviet Jews by e-mail. 4201773@mcimail.com
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"Chizhika s'el"
Hi folks! 17/01/1995
Vlasti ob'javili, chto operacija po unichtozheniju terroristov v
Pervomajskoj zavershena. V vechernih sumerkah esche slyshny pulemetnye
ocheredi v storone pojmennogo lesa (v neskol'kih sotnjah metrov ot
okolicy), no v sele uzhe pobyvali neskol'ko doverennyh zhurnalistov.
Teleprodukcija, kotoruju im bylo pozvoleno pustit' v efir,
ischisljaetsja primerno 15 sekundami - jamy s trupami.
ZALOZhNIKI: vlasti oficial'no ob'javili, chto:
"okolo 80-90 (TAK!!!) zalozhnikov osvobozhdeny za eti 4 dnja"
"sud'ba 18 neizvestna, oni, vidimo, pogibli i zaryty dudaevcami -
ni odnogo trupa ne obnaruzheno",
"takim obrazom, iz 100 zalozhnikov spaseno podavljajuschee
bol'shinstvo".
Kak izvestno, iz Kizljara bylo vyvezeno okolo 130 zalozhnikov, na
blokpostu Novosibirskogo OMONa v Pervomajskoj bylo zahvacheno 36, v
sele na moment nachala ego blokady ostavalos' neskol'ko desjatkov
zhitelej. Arifmetika ne shoditsja. Chto kasaetsja neopredelennogo
chisla "osvobozhdennyh", to dostoverno izvestno tol'ko, chto na
fil'tropunkte (konclagere) soderzhitsja 35 zalozhnikov i dva plennyh
chechenca, esche neskol'ko ( no sovsem nemnogo) zalozhnikov osvobozhdeny
i dal'she s nimi "rabotaet" prokuratura i FSB Kizljara. Rabota
sostoit v tom, chto ih "ubezhdajut" davat' presse razrabotannye
vlastjami versii sobytij, ugrozhaja vozbuzhdeniem ugolovnogo dela za
"posobnichestvo vragu". Tem ne menee, NI ODIN ASPEKT OFICIAL'NOJ
VERSII sobytij ni odnim zalozhnikom ne podtverzhden. Oni otricajut, v
chastnosti, soobschenija o rasstrele zalozhnikov. A soobschenie FSB,
citirovannoe i E, o rasstrele dagestanskih starejshin, v zajavlenii
dagestanskogo pravitel'stva nazvano "provokacionnym".
My podhodim k samomu sensacionnomu aspektu etoj grjaznoj istorii:
provalilas' ne tol'ko operacija po osvobozhdeniju zalozhnikov (a ona i
ne planirovalas'), no i operacija po unichtozheniju boevikov. Noch'ju i
rano utrom znachitel'naja chast' otrjada Radueva, v tom chisle,
vozmozhno, i sam etot demonicheskij personazh, prorvali "trojnoe
kol'co okruzhenija" v raznyh mestah i s boem vyrvalis' k Tereku.
Pereplyv Terek na zagotovlennyh soplemennikami lodkah, oni
skrylis', uvedja s soboj chast' zalozhnikov - ne menee 5, mozhet byt',
do 29 OMONovcev. Krome togo, odnoj iz grupp byli uvedeny nekotorye
zalozhniki - grazhdanskie muzhchiny (kak tjaglovaja sila) i otpuscheny na
dagestanskom beregu. Ot nih (tak kak nekotorym iz nih udalos'
uvidet'sja s oficioznymi zhurnalistami do popadanija v konclager') my
znaem o hode proryva etoj gruppy. Vse ostal'nye zalozhniki byli
osvobozhdeny i samostojatel'no iskali spasenija ot zhestokogo artognja
v ostavlennyh chechencami bunkere i okopah.
El'cin (ja, kazhetsja, esche polgoda dolzhen dobavljat' "g-n Prezident?")
zajavil, chto "neozhidannaja dlja nas prodolzhitel'nost' tol'ko chto
UDAChNO (tak!) zakonchennoj operacii svjazana s tem, chto tam okazalsja
opornyj punkt Dudaeva - celyj podzemnyj gorod, katakomby, tunneli,
bunkera, ubezhischa". Vysheupomjanutye oficioznye zhurnalisty,
dopuschennye segodnja vlastjami v Pervomajskuju, ne sderzhali ulybki,
kogda ih poprosili otkommentirovat' eti slova. "Tam est' bunker
blokposta, a krome etogo - obychnaja sistema transhej, otrytyh
lopatoj v lessovom grunte za nedelju", - byl otvet.
Pervaja reakcija v Dagestane, na Kavkaze i v armii - beshenstvo. V
Dagestane - jarost' porovnu na chechencev i Moskvu, v armii - na
chechencev i El'cina. Esli s tochki zrenija unichtozhenija Chechni El'cin
udachno prodolzhil iniciativu Radueva po pod'emu obschego urovnja
ozverenija, to ego sobstvennye plany, pohozhe, ne vygoreli. Dazhe
esli predpolozhit', chto russkij narod teper' bol'she vsego ljubit
zlodeev (a imenno eto g-n E. polozhil v osnovu svoej prezidentskoj
kampanii), to on ljubit zlodeev UDAChLIVYH. A nash gradonachal'nik
ocherednoj raz "chizhika s'el".
Iz-za tragicheskoj obstanovki ja pozvolju sebe tol'ko nebol'shoj
politicheskij kommentarij. Naskol'ko ja ponimaju, plan E. sostoit v
tom, chtoby maksimal'no oslabljat' vse vozmozhnye "zapadnicheskie",
"demokraticheskie" ili "pragmaticheskie" sily. Pri etom usilenie i
konsolidacija kommunisticheskogo ili nacionalisticheskogo lagerja hotja
i ne privetstvuetsja, no schitaetsja neizbezhnym zlom. Naprimer,
podogrevanie voennoj i rasistskoj isterii vokrug Kavkaza podryvaet
pozicii "demokratov" (javlincev i ostatkov gajdarovcev), a takzhe
diskreditiruet arhitektorov prezhnej razrjadki naprjazhennosti s
Chechnej (Chernomyrdina i Vol'skogo). Takim obrazom, E. hochet
obespechit', chtoby v pervom ture on odin predstavljal
"antikommunisticheskuju Rossiju". Togda vo vtoroj tur s ogromnym
perevesom projdet (uslovnyj) Zjuganov i, kak predpolagaetsja, E.
Eto, konechno, esli udastsja reshit' problemu Lebedja, no
predpolagaetsja, chto ego utihomirjat, kak Javlinskogo i Chernomyrdina.
Zhirinovskij problemy ne predstavljaet - on budet rabotat' pod
kontrolem, otnimat' golosa u Zjuganova (chtoby on ne pobedil srazu v
pervom ture), a esli vdrug okazhetsja, chto za nego sobirajutsja
golosovat' bol'she, chem za E, snimet kandidaturu.
Vo vtorom ture za E. dolzhny golosovat' vse, kto boitsja vozvrata k
kommunizmu, a esli etogo vse zhe budet nedostatochno, rezul'taty
vyborov budut annulirovany pri blagosklonnom, kak predpolagaetsja,
otnoshenii Zapada. Otsjuda i beretsja eta destruktivnaja taktika E. v
poslednie mesjacy do 16 ijunja - on mozhet ostat'sja u vlasti tol'ko na
ruinah Rossii, v malo-mal'ski spokojnoj obstanovke emu nichego ne
svetit. Vprochem, ja dumaju i nadejus', chto vse ravno ne svetit.
Vash Alik
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Reuter
Sunday January 21 10:12 AM EST
Chechen Rebels Mock Moscow Over Village Attack
MOSCOW (Reuter) - A Chechen rebel who
escaped a four-day bombardment by Russian
forces of the village of Pervomaiskoye ridiculed
Moscow from his base in Chechnya as stunned
villagers pondered the wreckage of their homes.
Russian officials defended their full-scale
military action against the Chechen rebels,
pledging on Saturday to be just as ruthless in
dealing with any repeated hostage seizure.
But a report from one of the rebels at large in
Chechnya that he and many of his fellows had
got out of Pervomiaskoye unscathed undermined
the tough message coming from Moscow.
``Terrorism would inevitably escalate in the north
Caucasus if the rebel action were not decisively
stopped,'' Federal Security Service chief Mikhail
Barsukov told a news conference.
``We will ruthlessly put down any such rebel
action,'' added Interior Minister Anatoly Kulikov.
Seven corpses, including those of at least two of
the hostages seized by the rebels, lay in the
frozen, muddy streets of Pervomaiskoye on
Saturday, testifying to the ruthlessness of the
Russian assault.
Hungry animals snuffled among the wreckage
while villagers shocked by the ruins of their 300
houses salvaged what they could, silently
carrying out heaps of belongings in blankets.
Moscow, which called its attack on the village
``an operation to free the hostages,'' said most of
them got out alive.
But Chechen rebel commander Shamil Basayev
told Reuters that two were killed by a Russian
rocket and nine died in a hail of Russian bullets as
they tried to leave the village under a white flag.
Maksud Ingulbayev, one of the Chechens who
had been in Pervomaiskoye, said all the leaders
of the ``Lone Wolf'' band had escaped and taken
more than 20 hostages with them.
Ingulbayev gave a scathing account of the
Russian operation to overcome him and his
fellow rebels, who seized weapons and hostages
in the southern Russian republic of Dagestan and
were on their way back to Chechnya when they
were surrounded.
``There was no coordination between aviation,
artillery and other forces,'' he said.
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: Kizl'ar-Pervomajskaja - predvaritel'nye itogi
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KIZLJaR - PERVOMAJSKAJa: PREDVARITEL'NYE ITOGI
Hi folks! 23/01/1996
Zagolovok etogo pis'ma zvuchit "naukoobrazno", no na samom dele eto -
konglomerat vpechatlenij, esche tolkom ne "upakovavshihsja". Odnako,
koe-chto, po-moemu, uzhe mozhno pochuvstvovat'.
Press-konferencija v Novogroznenskom
Segodnja pri skoplenii bol'shogo chisla zhurnalistov v sele
Novogroznenskom (kak ja ponimaju, Gudermesskogo rajona - na moej
pjatikilometrovke ego net; sudja po kadram TV, eto tipichnoe
ravninno-predgornoe selenie) sostojalas' press-konferencija liderov
Chechni-Ichkerii. K sozhaleniju, tol'ko press-konferencija, a ne namechennoe
na segodnja osvobozhdenie zalozhnikov - grazhdanskih lic.
Predpolozhitel'no, ih osvobodjat zavtra (tochnee, kak utverzhdali
chechency, dostavjat v Novogroznenskoe i peresadjat v avtobusy
Dagestanskogo pravitel'stva - zhelajuschie uehat' svoim hodom vol'ny
delat' eto uzhe segodnja, no zhelajuschih, po ponjatnym prichinam, net).
Vsego Raduevym uvedeno v Chechnju 86 zalozhnikov i plennyh, oni nahodjatsja
v neskol'kih gornyh selah kilometrah v 20. Neskol'ko desjatkov
zalozhnikov takzhe vyshli cherez proryv okruzhenija, no na beregu Tereka
otkazalis' perepravljat'sja, sochtja, chto ih zhizn' uzhe ne podvergaetsja
opasnosti ot federal'nyh vojsk. Vidimo, imenno oni i sostavili
raznicu mezhdu 26 zalozhnikami, "osvobozhdennymi" federalami na moment
ob'javlenija "bol'she nikogo net v zhivyh", i okonchatel'noj cifroj 82. Ja
vzjal v kavychki slovo "osvobozhdennymi", potomu chto bol'shaja chast' iz
etih 26 byli libo otpuscheny do nachala shturma, libo
otkomandirovany na peregovory (ob odnoj takoj istorii - nizhe).
Na press-konferencii vystupili troe OMONovcev-plennyh i troe
zalozhnikov iz Kizljara. Oni bolee ili menee podtverdili kartinu boja,
sostavlennuju po dannym chechenskoj storony. Vse oni znajut, chto po
vozvraschenii ih zhdet rassledovanie ih povedenija i obvinenija v
posobnichestve (ryli okopy - kotorye TOL'KO I SPASLI IM ZhIZN', vo
vremja proryva okruzhenija nesli nosilki s ranenymi chechencami), no s
bezgranichnym optimizmom ubezhdeny, chto, tak skazat', "Rodina vse
prostit". Oj li?
Raduev - chechenskij Grachev
V kuluarah glavnye chechenskie komandiry rezko otzyvalis' o "dudaevskom
zjate". Shamil' Basaev skazal, chto pohod na Kizljar byl pozornym
balaganom, chto esli kto-to hochet stat' "vtorym Basaevym", on ustupit
etu chest' za tak. Po ego slovam, Raduev staraetsja vydvinut'sja i
zavoevat' uvazhenie zemljakov, kotorye uporno ne hotjat schitat' ego
geroem i komandirom, a schitajut "zjatem". V Kizljarskuju avantjuru on
povel mnozhestvo molodyh bojcov, pochti detej, bez vsjakoj voennoj
podgotovki. Chtoby izbezhat' nemedlennogo porazhenija otrjada, k nemu v
kachestve komandira-nastavnika byl prisoedinen opytnejshij
voenachal'nik, komandujuschij Jugo-Vostochnym napravleniem Hungar-Pasha
Isratilov. Kstati, Kulikov gordo soobschil v subbotu, chto "hotja trup
Radueva ne najden, no zato v nochnom boju v sredu ubit H-P. Isratilov,
i ego trup najden v Pervomajskoj". Vse agentstva novostej peredali eto
soobschenie, no segodnja Isratilov, s zabintovannoj rukoj i plechom,
sidel v prezidiume sobranija rjadom s Mashadovym. Isratilov polnost'ju
podderzhal Basaevskuju ocenku Radueva i ego avantjury.
Ogromnyj moral'nyj i politicheskij uscherb, prichinennyj Chechne Raduevym,
zastavljaet raznye sily iskat' formulirovki otnoshenija k nemu. Na
press-konferencii Raduev ne sidel za obschim stolom s Mashadovym,
Isratilovym, Udugovym (ministr informacii) i Basaevym, a "zabegal"
otvetit' na neskol'ko voprosov i vyskakival, nervno merjaja shagami
shkol'nyj dvor. Dudaev kolebletsja, chto budet vygodnee - ob'javit' ego
geroem ili prestupnikom, Mashadov istochaet jad i zajavljaet na
press-konferencii "ja imeju k pohodu Radueva otnoshenie tol'ko nachinaja s
momenta, kogda ego blokirovali v Pervomajskoj", ostal'nye komandiry
ironizirujut. S drugoj storony, etot isterichnyj junosha s reducirovannoj
moral'ju i umerennymi sposobnostjami - kak-nikak simvol SAMOGO
POZORNOGO PORAZhENIJa rossijskoj armii. Verojatno, kompromiss budet
sostojat' v tom, chto Raduevu "predlozhat" chto-to tipa shtrafbata.
Chto sluchilos' v Kizljare?
S pervyh chasov stolknovenij v Kizljare soobschalos' - v tom chisle so
ssylkoj na marionetochnoe pravitel'stvo v Groznom - chto rossijskie
specsluzhby ZNALI o nalete na Kizljar, chto uvedomljalis' kak MVD
respubliki, tak i vse neobhodimye moskovskie vlasti. Informacija,
postupivshaja pozdnee iz milicejskih i voennyh istochnikov v Kizljare,
prolivaet svet i na eto. Pohozhe, byla predprinjata (silami FSB)
operacija po dezinformacii Dudaeva. Byla sfabrikovana versija, chto na
voennyj aerodrom Kizljara pribyvajut 8 janvarja 8 transportnyh vertoletov
s gruzom reaktivnyh snarjadov (NURS). Ohrana jakoby - minimal'naja.
Pojavilas' vozmozhnost' otlichit'sja Raduevu, a Dudaevu - podrastit'
sobstvennuju, zavisjaschuju ot nego, a ne ot Mashadova, generaciju polevyh
komandirov. Ohrany ne okazalos' voobsche, a vot vertoletov - dva,
pustyh, bez gruza i gorjuchego. Zato vokrug - 4000 otbornyh soldat,
pojmavshih Radueva v lovushku.
Dal'she nachinaetsja rashozhdenie versij. Raduev zajavljaet, chto emu
ostavili tol'ko koridor k bol'nice - sluchajno ili narochno, i, spasaja
svoju zhizn', on rinulsja tuda. Oficioz (oficery KGB, a takzhe vsjacheskie
"eksperty po terrorizmu", pricheskoj i rozhej pohozhie na banditov),
narochito otkazyvajas' kommentirovat' vysheskazannoe, govorjat, chto
bol'nica, nesomnenno, byla cel'ju Radueva s samogo nachala. On, jakoby,
zanjal ee ran'she (ili chut' pozzhe), chem nachal udar po aerodromu, chto
zahvat zalozhnikov i pred'javlenie ul'timatuma bylo cel'ju bolee vazhnoj,
chem aerodrom i vokzal. Eto mne kazhetsja somnitel'nym - na samom
vysokom urovne rossijskie nachal'niki govorili uzhe s oseni, chto
reshenie, prinjatoe v Budennovske, bylo oshibkoj, i Raduev ne mog etogo
ne znat'. Skoree ja gotov poverit', chto bol'nica zanimalas' imenno kak
bol'nica - mesto, gde est' operacionnye (i dejstvitel'no, tuda
dostavili ranenyh boevikov), sklady lekarstv, mozhet byt', narkotiki
ili spirt. A pri neudachnom povorote Raduev uhvatilsja za solominku. Vo
vsjakom sluchae, s rossijskoj storony pro eto delo izoshlo uzhe stol'ko
lzhi, chto bezopasnee ne verit' ni odnomu ih slovu.
Sud'ba Natashi Alievoj
Kogda dve nedeli sidish' v takom tjaguchem bolote lzhi i krovi, nevol'no
obostrenno vosprinimaesh' ljubuju LIChNUJu dramu, gde vidny ljudi, a ne
"boeviki", "zalozhniki" i "federaly". Rasskaz ob etoj istorii ja
uslyshal po radio ot Aleksandra Evtushenko ("Komsomol'skaja pravda",
"Radio Svoboda") - snachala kak promel'knuvshuju momental'nuju scenku
vojny, a potom - uzhe den' za dnem muchitel'no lovil vse novye
podrobnosti razvitija etoj istorii.
Itak, scenka vojny. Vtornik, 16-e, posle provala pervyh shturmov
Pervomajskoj. Amerikanskij korrespondent videl, kak zatalkivali v
"voronok" gor'ko rydajuschego cheloveka - "osvobozhdennogo zalozhnika" (na
samom dele parlamentera). "U menja tam ostalas' doch'!" - krichal on, no
gebisty zabrosili ego v mashinu, i odin iz nih nastavitel'no skazal:
"Bud' zhe muzhchinoj!"
Sem'ju Rashida Alieva terroristy prignali v bol'nicu v polnom sostave,
- i zhenu, i vseh pjateryh detej. V avtokolonne okazalos' ih uzhe dvoe -
on i pjatnadcatiletnjaja doch' Natasha. Iz Pervomajskoj terroristy poslali
Natashu v sosednee selo za produktami, nameknuv, chto ona mozhet ne
vozvraschat'sja. No ona vernulas' - "kak ja mogu brosit' otca?" A vo
vtornik, posle pervyh shturmov, raduevcy poslali Rashida s belym flagom
- peredat' federalam svoi predlozhenija. Nazad on, kak vy uzhe
prochitali, ne vernulsja. Selo sgorelo dotla v razryvah "Gradov", no
Natashi ne okazalos' ni sredi zhivyh, ni sredi mertvyh. Rashid obmer ot
gorja i styda - on BROSIL DOCh' V EE SMERTNYJ ChAS. Tol'ko kogda stalo
izvestno, chto kto-to ushel na drugoj bereg vmeste s prorvavshimi
okruzhenie boevikami, u nego zabrezzhila nadezhda (hot' generaly Kulikov
i Barsukov i uspokoili obschestvennost' - "verojatno, vse prorvavshiesja
utonuli v Tereke - zhdem vodolazov, budem iskat'"). Mnozhestvo takih,
kak on, s rannego utra den' za dnem stojat u pod'ezda gorodskoj
administracii Kizljara. I vot - novost': Natasha zhiva! Chechency govorjat,
chto dazhe ne ranena! Zavtra ee dolzhny privezti v Novogroznenskoe.
Esche zalozhniki rasskazali, chto v obrechennom sele rabotal televizor, i
v sredu oni uslyshali iz ust generala KGB - "vse zalozhniki mertvy, my
pristupaem k poslednej stadii operacii". Nado prosto POSTAVIT' SEBJa
NA IH MESTO, i ja ne verju, chto mozhno posle etogo ostat'sja takim zhe,
kak i ran'she.
Ostat'sja takim zhe?
Segodnja pokinul vse svoi posty v prezidentskih strukturah Sergej
Kovalev, vchera eto sdelal Gajdar. Gajdar skorogovorkoj upomjanul svoju
"naivnost'", vyrazivshujusja v podderzhke El'cina dazhe posle nachala
vojny. Kovalev podcherknul, chto ne budet podderzhivat' El'cina ni pri
kakih uslovijah, dazhe esli ego protivnikom budet Zjuganov ili
Zhirinovskij. Razitel'nyj kontrast s ego poziciej godichnoj davnosti,
kogda S.A. govoril "ja NADEJuS' (on imel v vidu "bojus'", no ogovorka
pokazatel'naja), chto Zjuganov budet huzhe".
Luchshe pozdno, chem nikogda? Paradoksal'no, no dlja E. eto ochen'
vygodnyj shag, i pritom v udachnyj moment - on vpisyvaetsja v ego
programmu "vo chto by to ni stalo ponravit'sja Partkom Partkomycham". I
tem ne menee - da. Prosto dusha Kovaleva vazhnee teh dolej procenta,
kotorye vyigraet Verhovnyj Glavnokomandujuschij.
Javlinskij sobiraet podpisi pod peticiej ob otstavke pravitel'stva.
Kommunisty morschatsja i davat' ih ne hotjat, potomu chto prazdnujut
uvol'nenie "demokratov" iz pravitel'stva. "Vot i horosho, - skazal
Javlinskij, - davno pora vnesti jasnost', kto est' kto v svjazi s etoj
vojnoj". Da uzh, davno - luchshe by, chtoby do ee nachala - gljadish', i ne
nachalas' by...
Vash Alik
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V Decabre po sleznoj pros'be nekoj Mariny (be683@freenet.Buffalo.EDU),
ja kupil i privez iz Moskvy lekarstvo.
Esli Marine nuzhno eto lekarstvo, to pust' soobshit adres, t.k.
v techenii 20 dnej upomjanytyj e-mail adres vozvrashaet msgs.
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CHECHNIA - SVETLOE BUDUSHEE VSEGO CHELOVECHESTVA?
Itak, Pervomaisko-Kizliarskaia ahineiia sravnitel'no
blagopoluchno zavershilas'.
Srazu zamechy, chto ne ponimaiu isteriki v presse po etomu
povodu. Vlasti deistvovali vpolne bezdarno, no bez osobogo
liudoedstva. Bol'shinstvo zalojnikov ostalis' jivy (eto
prakticheski dostoverno), mestnye jiteli zablagovremenno sbejali,
i, v sushnosti, edinstvennaia ser'eznaia poteria - eto
razdolbannaia vdryzg derevnia. Ne bog vest' chto.
A vot bezdarnost' vlastei, deistvitel'no, perehodit ramki
vozmojnogo.
Naskol'ko mojno poniat', proishodilo sleduiushee: kogda v
Kizliare dogovorilis' banditov otpustit', primerno 250-400
banditov i 100-150 zalojnikov (cifry iz raznyh mass-media)
pogruzilis' v 11 avtobusov i dva Kamaza i poehali. (Avtobusy byli
v osnovnom PAZikami, i sidelo v nih, sudia po TV, chelovek po 30.
To est' vsego ehalo 300-400 dush - v obshem shoditsia.)
Po doroge oni zahvatili blok-post (check-point), a na nem 40
milicionerov zalojnikami, a takje kuchu boepripasov s blok-posta.
Utverjdaetsia, chto proizoshla ocherednaia glupost': na blok-postu
nichego ne znali, i kolonna pod'ehala vplotnuiu, vystaviv v okna
jenshin-zalojnic s belymi flagami, a tam vyskochili bandity i
vziali mentov na mushku.
Ostanovili kolonnu v poslednii moment pered perehodom v
Chechniu, v derevne Pervomaiskoe. Naselenie uspelo smyt'sia v
sosednee selo.
Posle chego vlasti nachali gotovit' ataku, a bandity (silami
zalojnikov) - ryt' okopy. I prodoljalos' et chut' ne NEDELIU! V
rezul'tate k nachalu shturma u banditov byli ochen' prilichnye
ukrepleniia. U nih byli pulemety, granatomety i boepripasov na dve
nedeli strel'by.
Nakonec nachalsia shturm. Uchastvovali: boevye vertolety
(armiia), artilleriia (armiia), i shturmovye gruppy - specnaz
POLICII i KGB (?!).
Posle chisto demonstrativnogo obstrela - vse drujno
utverjdaiut, chto bili iskliuchitel'no po okrainam - policeiskii
specnaz sunulsia vpered i popal pod ogon'. Prishlos' otoiti.
Potom nachalsia bardak: kto-to kuda-to nepreryvno strelial
izo vsego, chto streliaet. Inogda po svoim. Selo, estestvenno,
zagorelos', i v dymu i tumane nichego tolkom vidno ne bylo. Sviazi
mejdu atakuiushimi toje tolkom ne bylo. I tak troe sutok.
Zalojnikov bandity ne rasstrelivali, chto i poniatno: esli uj
nachalsia shturm - nado otbivat'sia, a ne s zalojnikami vozit'sia.
Chast' zalojnikov prosto sbejala v sumatohe.
(Vprochem, ne iskliucheno, chto vsia bestolkovaia strel'ba
byla lish' dlia sozdaniia etoi samoi sumatohi.)
No tak ili inache, v konce koncov banditov ottesnili s
okrain. Tut-to oni noch'iu sobralis' i poshli na proryv.
Vstretil ih otriad ocepleniia boicov v 20 i primerno chas
uspeshno otbivalsia (streliat'-to specnazovcy umeiut). V shtabe,
vidimo, vse spali - po krainei mere nikakogo podkrepleniia ne
podoshlo. V konce koncov oceplenie otoshlo, a bandity prorvalis' i
ushli, uvodia chast' zalojnikov. V oceplenii pogiblo shestero.
Ot sela k etomu vremeni ostalos' nemnogo. Na chem vse i
konchilos'. Pozorishe i posmeshishe.
Oficial'nye dannye (vse cifry primerno): osvobojdeny (v
smysle vyshli jivymi k svoim) 80 zalojnikov (veroiatno, eto
pravda); uvedeno v Chechniu 60; Raduev ushel jivoi i daje ne
ranenyi (uje vystupal po TV, radostnyi, kak rebenok); poteri
vlastei - 30 ubityh i 100 ranenyh (pravdopodobno); poteri banditov
- odnomu Allahu izvestny.
Vlasti zaiavili, chto naideno 150 trupov banditov i 30 vziato
v plen. Proverit' nevozmojno, no sootnoshenie podozritel'no -
logichno bylo by ojidat' fifty-fifty ili tipa togo. S drugoi
storony, policeiskie snaipery obychno ubivaiut. Vidimo, chislo
ubityh zavysheno raza v dva. Opiat' je i Raduev skazal, chto
poterial 20%, t.e. chelovek 60 - ochevidno, toje sovrav raza v
dva-tri (tol'ko v Kizliare u nego ubili 30 boicov).
Po poteriam zalojnikov est' tochnye dannye po tem samym
mentam s blok-posta. Bylo ih okolo 40, 25 osvobojdeno, 15 uvedeno
v Chechniu, pogiblo 1-2. Eto, vidimo, pravda. Esli takaia
proporciia i po ostal'nym zalojnikam - rezul'tat bolee chem
priemlemyi, uchityvaia masshtaby bezobraziia. Poskol'ku vriad li
mentov bandity beregli bol'she, chem dagestancev - pohoje, chto
tak i est'.
Inache govoria, postoianno povtoriaemye mass-media slova o
massovoi gibeli zalojnikov ot ognia federal'nyh sil - polnaia
chush'; pri shturme Pervomaiskogo pogiblo zavedomo men'she mirnyh
jitelei, chem vo vremia sobstvenno zahvata Kizliara banditami.
Na samom dele vse eti slova proishodiat ot edinstvennogo
jurnalista (Iakova iz "Izvestii"), kotoryi dobralsia do sela i vse
izdaleka videl.
Videt'-to on videl, no, sudia po tomu, chto on po etomu
povodu napisal - on polnyi bolvan (eto, konechno, moe lichnoe
mnenie). V chastnosti, esli v derevne sgorel dom - eto vovse ne
oznachaet, chto vse vnutri doma pogibli (kak polagaet nash
jurnalist).
Voobshe idiotizm mass-media uspeshno sopernichal s idiotizmom
vlastei. Standartnym janrom byla isterika diktora na fone
nevniatnoi kartinki.
Dudaevcy predlojili zalojnikov-dagestancev otpustit' bez
uslovii, a plennyh mentov obmeniat' na svoih plennyh. Vpolne
dostoinyi hod.
Vot takoi bred. Teper' kommentarii.
Malen'kii vopros nomer odin: kakogo cherta kolonnu voobshe
vpustili v naselennyi punkt? Nu ostanovili by ih v chistom pole i
libo shturmovali, libo prosto derjali oceplenie i jdali, poka oni
vymerznut na 10-gradusnom moroze. Ves' posleduiushii bardak
proishodil iz etoi pervoi ahinei.
Nomer dva: glavnyi pozor - to, chto bandity prorvalis'.
Voobshe-to davno pridumany koliuchaia provoloka, okopy i minnye
polia. Tak chto esli vziat' shturmom ukreplennuiu derevniu -
deistvitel'no ser'eznaia zadacha, to uj derjat' vokrug nee
oceplenie - delo nehitroe. Nu prignali by motostrelkovyi polk i
prikazali zaniat' oboronu soglasno ustavu! Vmesto etogo otdel'nye
otriady sideli v chistom pole v snegu bez okopov, kryshi,
goriachei pishi i normal'noi sviazi.
Chechenskii nachshtaba Mashadov skazal, chto etot reid -
bezobrazie i chto Raduev budet nakazan, a takje chto tam byli
"nashi luchshie boicy". Hot' kakoe-to uteshenie...
Opiat' je v uteshenie mojno vspomnit', chto vo vremia
nedavnei strel'by v Gudermese 100 russkih soldat dve nedeli
derjali oboronu protiv primerno tysiachi dudaevcev i blagopoluchno
otbilis'. Nu legche s sovremennym orujiem oboroniat'sia, chem
napadat', nu chto podelaesh'!
Otdel'naia poema - reakciia vyshego nachal'stva. Chtoby za 20
sekund v efire prezident smorozil srazu dve gluposti - eto nado
umet'! Prichem imenno glupost', a ne vran'e. V chastnosti, Elkin,
vidimo, ne znal, chto Dagestan - chast' Rossii i vosprinimal ego
kak nezavisimoe gosudarstvo tipa Gruzii (ia ne shuchu!).
Vtoroi hohmoi byla fraza Elkina o tom, chto v Pervomaiskom u
banditov byla zaranee podgotovlennaia baza (nad etoi frazoi pressa
izdevalas' nedeliu). Opiat' je eto - ne vran'e, a glupost':
ochevidno, v doklade bylo skazano, chto u banditov byli
ukrepleniia (chto pravda), a elkinskii spichraiter s neuemnym
literaturnym darom eto otredaktiroval.
V opravdanie vlastei mojno skazat' razve chto sleduiushee:
bylo neponiatno, chto, sobstvenno, organizuetsia - to li armeiskii
shturm ukreplennogo punkta protivnika, to li policeiskaia
operaciia po osvobojdeniiu zalojnikov. V rezul'tate proishodilo
postoiannoe smeshenie janrov: policeiskih v kachestve pehoty
brosali na pulemety; artilleriia streliala, no ne ochen' i t.p.
Shef KGB v jalkoe opravdanie skazal, chto takogo masshtaba
terroristicheskih akcii v mire do sih por ne bylo, chto chistaia
pravda. Kak izvestno, pri "obychnom" osvobojdenii zalojnikov na
treh-piateryh terroristov s pistoletami prihoditsia sotnia
policeiskih s avtomatami. A v KGB-vskoi gruppe protivoterrora
vsego-to sotnia boicov - protiv 300 u Radueva. I voorujenie u nih
ravnoe. Vot i osvobojdaite tut zalojnikov.
A upiraetsia vse v promejutochnoe polojenie Rossii kak
"byvshei civilizovannoi strany": to li ona civilizovannaia, to li
net. S odnoi storony, civilizovannaia, potomu chto prosto perebit'
banditov vmeste s zalojnikami, rasstreliav kolonnu s vertoletov
(chego uj proshe) - kak by nehorosho. S drugoi storony, po
civilizovannym stranam vrode by ne doljny raz'ezjat' bandy v 300
boicov s voorujeniem sovremennyh komandos.
Vot eta drugaia storona vseliaet nekotoryi ujas, a imenno: a
nu kak takaia banda zavedetsia v "civilizovannoi" strane - kto i
kak ee ostanovit? Sovremennoe ruchnoe orujie nastol'ko effektivno,
chto v usloviiah peresechennoi mestnosti (naprimer, goroda) s
takoi bandoi spravit'sia prakticheski nevozmojno: BTR podbivaetsia
s odnogo vystrela, tank - s 5-6, vertolet toje sbivaetsia, a
strelka ne vidno.
Vot i predstav'te sebe bandu v 200 chelovek tipa dudaevskoi,
baziruiushuiusia v down-towne i vyhodiashuiu grabit' bogatye
prigorody. A takje predstav'te sebe down-town, gde iz kajdogo okna
mojet strel'nuit' granatomet. Ili obychnuiu kompaniiu rokerov - i
u kajdogo cherez plecho "Kalashnikov". Vpechatliaet?
Vash Andrei.
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Hi everybody,
I need to send a couple of documents (doverennosti) to St.Petersburg
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please let me know.
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Hi!
Due to the decline of enrollment in Russian courses in America, I am now an
unemployed teacher of Russian. I am trying to start a business of doing
translations from Russian German or Serbian to English. If you have anything
you need to have translated, please e-mail at my address:
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Dear friends (especially FizTechs),
Currently you can find (and read!) a very interesting book - memoirs
of the FizTech FUPM dean N.N. Moiseyev. One can easily download all
chapters of the book at http://www.glasnet.ru. The book is in the
ANONCE part of the Main Menu. Believe me, it is worth to try.
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Dear INFO-RUSSers,
I am looking (once again) for a baby-sitter to live with us 5 days a
week in Sudbury, Massachusetts (50 min drive from Boston), care for my
2y.9m.- old boy and do some easy house-keeping. If you know an
interested person, please contact me directly by e-mail sigalovs@mit.edu
or by phone: (617)253-4480 daytime and (508)440-8856 evenings.
Thanks for the help,
Julia Sigalovsky
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Kratkoe zamechanie k tekstu Andrei Andrianova "CHECHNIA - SVETLOE BUDUSHEE
VSEGO CHELOVECHESTVA?" Andrei zadaetsia voprosom: "A nu kak takaia
banda zavedetsia v "civilizovannoi" strane - kto i kak ee ostanovit?"
Otvet na etot vopros ("ne zavedetsia") zakliuchaetsia v tom, chto
civilizovannye strany v sobstvennom smysle etogo slova ne posylaiut voisk
v drugie natsional'no-gosudarstvennye obrazovaniia, zaiavivshie o svoei
nezavisimosti, a skoree naoborot - takovye voiska, esli uzh oni okazalis'
v chuzhom dome, vyvodiat, predostavliaia drugim narodam zanimat'sia
svoimi sobstvennymi delami i reshat' svoiu sobstvennuiu sud'bu bez
ustanovok "Grad". I eshche odno, terminologicheskoe, zamechanie: nazyvat'
chechentsev "banditami" - dazhe i zakhvatyvaiushchikh zalozhnikov -
riskovanno. Chto esli zavtra Rossii pridetsia s etimi "banditami"
podpisyvat' dogovor o mire i granitse, a russkomu prezidentu nado
budet pozhimat' ruku g-nu Dudaevu? Stremno.
Vash Volodia.
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Dear friends:
This is a final list of donors to the Ovchinnikov's fund made through
American Help Foundation. The total amount is almost $2,500.
It appears that sufficient funds have been raised and V.F. is expected
to arrive to Germany to undergo a planned surgery.
Thank you all.
Baransky, Yuri
Belinson, Alexander
Berdichevsky, Irina & Stanislav
Beyzerov, Michael
Charny, Leonid
Egorov, V.
Fleishman, Semen
Frumkin, Michael
Fuchs, Irina & Dmitry
Gassko, Irene
Guy, Michael
Kraytsberg, Alexander
Lavut, Tatyana
Levin, Aleksey
Nayerman, Yakov
Neimark, Alexander
Polivanova, Svetlana
Porotsky, Leonid
Rikun, Anatoly
Rozenman, Michael & Julia
Shnaydman, Vladimir
Shubin, Michael
Sidorenko, Alexander
Tumanov, Alexander & Olga
Vishik, S.
Yegorov, Vladimir
Yusin, Galina
Zak, Victor
Zolotusky, Galina
L. C.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Leonid Charny
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Phone: (617) 353-5442 FAX: (617) 353-5548 E-mail: leon@bu.edu
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I'd like to inform members of the alias of a company that provides FREE
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Andrej, dobryj den'!
U menja k Vashemu tekstu neskol'ko melkih pretenzij po faktam
(skoree, konechno, gruppirovke i interpretacii), a takzhe popytka
otvetit' na Vash osnoveoj vopros:
> CHECHNIA - SVETLOE BUDUSHEE VSEGO CHELOVECHESTVA?
Itak, poehali.
>i, v sushnosti, edinstvennaia ser'eznaia poteria - eto
>razdolbannaia vdryzg derevnia. Ne bog vest' chto.
Kak Vy dumaete, ostavshiesja sredi zimy bez domov zhiteli stanicy
poluchat pomosch' ot praitel'stva, naprimer, zhil'e? Cherez skol'ko
mesjacev (let, dnej)?
> Po doroge oni zahvatili blok-post (check-point), a na nem 40
>milicionerov zalojnikami, a takje kuchu boepripasov s blok-posta.
>Utverjdaetsia, chto proizoshla ocherednaia glupost': na blok-postu
>nichego ne znali, i kolonna pod'ehala vplotnuiu, vystaviv v okna
>jenshin-zalojnic s belymi flagami, a tam vyskochili bandity i
>vziali mentov na mushku.
>
> Ostanovili kolonnu v poslednii moment pered perehodom v
>Chechniu, v derevne Pervomaiskoe. Naselenie uspelo smyt'sia v
>sosednee selo.
Eto izlozhenie sozdaet nepravil'noe predstavlenie o vremennoj
posledovatel'nosti: blok-post nahoditsja v Pervomajskoj, i byl on
zahvachen ne DO, a POSLE togo, kak kolonnu atakovali (obstreljali).
Kolonna razvernulast' ot Shelkovskogo mosta i poshla vglub' Dagestana
(sudja po karte, k Hasav'jurtu).
> Posle chego vlasti nachali gotovit' ataku, a bandity (silami
>zalojnikov) - ryt' okopy. I prodoljalos' et chut' ne NEDELIU! V
>rezul'tate k nachalu shturma u banditov byli ochen' prilichnye
>ukrepleniia. U nih byli pulemety, granatomety i boepripasov na dve
>nedeli strel'by.
Na kadrah TV vidno, chto okopy - ne polnogo profilja. Zalozhnik -
milicioner iz Kizljara govorit, chto ne smog vyryt' dlja sebja
dostatochno glubokij okop, tak kak ego stalo zalivat' gruntovoj vodoj.
> Vstretil ih otriad ocepleniia boicov v 20 i primerno chas
>uspeshno otbivalsia (streliat'-to specnazovcy umeiut). V shtabe,
>vidimo, vse spali - po krainei mere nikakogo podkrepleniia ne
>podoshlo. V konce koncov oceplenie otoshlo, a bandity prorvalis' i
>ushli, uvodia chast' zalojnikov. V oceplenii pogiblo shestero.
Kommentarij budet nizhe, gde obsuzhdajutsja oshibki armii.
> Po poteriam zalojnikov est' tochnye dannye po tem samym
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>mentam s blok-posta. Bylo ih okolo 40, 25 osvobojdeno, 15 uvedeno
>v Chechniu, pogiblo 1-2. Eto, vidimo, pravda.
Bylo ih 36, v rukah chechencev nahoditsja 26. Tochnost' ostal'nyh
cifr takaja zhe. Naprimer, poteri boevikov v 153 cheloveka, kak
vyjasnilos' segodnja, predstavljajut soboj rezul'tat PREDPOLOZhENIJ
(a ne podscheta trupov, kak bylo ob'javleno generalami). Trupov
vsego 42, iz nih 5 prinadlezhat OPOZNANNYM zalozhnikam. Ostal'nye 111 -
"kak predpolagaetsja, utonuli v Tereke" i "kak predpolagaetsja,
podobrany chechencami i uneseny".
> Inache govoria, postoianno povtoriaemye mass-media slova o
>massovoi gibeli zalojnikov ot ognia federal'nyh sil - polnaia
>chush'; pri shturme Pervomaiskogo pogiblo zavedomo men'she mirnyh
>jitelei, chem vo vremia sobstvenno zahvata Kizliara banditami.
> Na samom dele vse eti slova proishodiat ot edinstvennogo
>jurnalista (Iakova iz "Izvestii"), kotoryi dobralsia do sela i vse
>izdaleka videl.
> Videt'-to on videl, no, sudia po tomu, chto on po etomu
>povodu napisal - on polnyi bolvan
[ SKIP ]
>vlastei. Standartnym janrom byla isterika diktora na fone
Napomnju zajavlenie press-sekretarja FSB, chto zhivyh zalozhnikov v sele
net, i s etogo momenta harakter operacii menjaetsja. Imenno posle etogo
sostojalsja proryv blokady raduevcami. Rezonnyj vopros: eto byla shutka?
Esli net, to skol'ko zalozhnikov bylo obrecheno na smert'? Do etogo
osvobodilos' okolo 20 i pogiblo 15 zalozhnikov iz 150-200. Nikto ne
oproverg soobschenija M.Udugova, chto v sredu Raduev predlozhil vypustit'
bez vsjakih uslovij vseh zalozhnikov - grazhdanskih lic i dagestancev.
Utverzhdaetsja, chto na vse popytki peredat' eto predlozhenie
rossijskim vlastjam otvet byl "nikakih zalozhnikov v zhivyh net".
No, konechno, my ne terpim nikakoj "isteriki na fone".
> Malen'kii vopros nomer odin: kakogo cherta kolonnu voobshe
>vpustili v naselennyi punkt? Nu ostanovili by ih v chistom pole i
>libo shturmovali, libo prosto derjali oceplenie i jdali, poka oni
>vymerznut na 10-gradusnom moroze.
Kto "oni", zalozhniki?
Kolonnu vpustili, potomu chto ne bylo plana. Poskol'ku na razrabotku
plana uhodit ne menee nedeli. A ostanovit' nalichnymi vojskami,
da bez plana - eto smeshno. Oni s vdesjatero bol'shimi vojskami
i pri plane ne smogli ostanovit'...
> Nomer dva: glavnyi pozor - to, chto bandity prorvalis'.
>Voobshe-to davno pridumany koliuchaia provoloka, okopy i minnye
>polia. Tak chto esli vziat' shturmom ukreplennuiu derevniu -
>deistvitel'no ser'eznaia zadacha, to uj derjat' vokrug nee
>oceplenie - delo nehitroe. Nu prignali by motostrelkovyi polk i
>prikazali zaniat' oboronu soglasno ustavu! Vmesto etogo otdel'nye
>otriady sideli v chistom pole v snegu bez okopov, kryshi,
>goriachei pishi i normal'noi sviazi.
Pro okopy ne znaju, a vot minnye polja i zagrazhdenija byli.
Federal'naja gruppirovka, kstati, byla znachitel'no bol'she
motostrelkovogo polka (3.5 tys. bojcov, po slovam Barsukova
i Kulikova). Imenno minnye polja raschischali chas s lishnim chechency
(soobschenie novosibirskogo OMONovca), a vovse ne perestrelivalis'
so specnazom. Pomosch' ne podoshla ne potomu, chto v shtabe spali
(podrazumevalsja li u Vas smajl?), a potomu chto proryv proishodil
pri odnovremennom udare izvne s neskol'kih napravlenij.
> Shef KGB v jalkoe opravdanie skazal, chto takogo masshtaba
>terroristicheskih akcii v mire do sih por ne bylo, chto chistaia
>pravda. Kak izvestno, pri "obychnom" osvobojdenii zalojnikov na
>treh-piateryh terroristov s pistoletami prihoditsia sotnia
>policeiskih s avtomatami.
A operacija Entebbe? Sravnite uslovija i rezul'taty!
I, nakonec, glavnoe:
> Vot i predstav'te sebe bandu v 200 chelovek tipa dudaevskoi,
>baziruiushuiusia v down-towne i vyhodiashuiu grabit' bogatye
>prigorody. A takje predstav'te sebe down-town, gde iz kajdogo okna
>mojet strel'nuit' granatomet. Ili obychnuiu kompaniiu rokerov - i
>u kajdogo cherez plecho "Kalashnikov". Vpechatliaet?
Net, ne vpechatljaet. POChEMU-TO etogo ne proishodit, hotja avtomat,
granatomet i nosimyj ZRK pridumali uzhe davno. Kak-to spravljajutsja na
rannej stadii silami policejskih osvedomitelej.
Delo v tom, chto banda ne stremitsja k zahvatu vlasti - togda
ischeznut bogatye (a vmeste s nimi vsja gorodskaja infrastruktura).
Eto nalagaet estestvennuju granicu na moguschestvo bandy.
A chechency vojujut za polnyj kontrol' nad svoej territoriej - eto
VOJNA, veduschajasja (poroj) banditskimi metodami. Eto principial'no
raznye zanjatija.
> Vash Andrei.
Prijatno bylo pochitat'.
Vash Alik
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Navsegda rasstaemsya s toboj, druzhok.
Narisuj na bumage prostoj kruzhok.
Eto budu ya: nichego vnutri.
Posmotri na nego, a potom sotri.
Umer Brodskij.
V XX veke russkaja literatura ne byla bedna talantami. Umiral odin, ostavalis'
drugie. Ne tri, tak dva, ne dva, tak odin. A vot mezhdu odnim i nulem -
raznica nalichiya i otsutstviya. Sejchas - ne ostalos' nikogo.
Brodskij uzhe umiral odin raz. I v svoem sobstvennom soznanii, i v soznanii
ostavshihsya. Kogda v 72 godu ego vyperli, on ne mog predstavit' sebe svoego
sushchestvovaniya vne goroda. Ego stihi posle etogo - stihi s togo sveta.
(Ya ne hochu citirovat' dlya teh, kto ne chital: ne dlya etogo stihi
pishutsya). V Leningrade zhe ostavshiesya poety "andergraunda" stali bodro
sporit', kto iz nih pervyj piit Peterburga. Ibo uezzhavshie ne proyavlyalis'
bol'she nikogda, a stalo byt', perestavali sushchestvovat'. Zhal', neplohie
poety prinimali v etom uchastie, no chitat' ih bol'she ne hochetsya.
Brodskij - dovol'no redkij, hotya ne unikal'nyj, primer lozhnoj slavy togo
zhe urovnya, kotorogo dolzhna byla by byt' istinnaya. Drugoj hrestomatijnyj
primer - Pushkin: kakoj zhe russkij ne znaet Pushkina? Tol'ko chitat' vot
ego dlya etogo ne obyazatel'no. Brodskij - poet velikij, no kamernyj. Ne
mogut ego lyubit' vse, ya ne pro narod, no dazhe pro iskrenne
chitayushchuyu publiku. Ya imeyu pravo ob etom govorit': kogda ya govoril
komu-nibud', chto Brodskij, kak mne kazhetsya, - poet urovnya Mandel'shtama,
vo vtoroj polovine 60h godov
eto vosprinimalos' kak eres' i preuvelichenie, granichivshee s neprilichiem.
Byli metry, i byl mal'chishka Brodskij, nu, "Piligrimy" tam, "Vasil'evskij
ostrov", no kakie-to paradniki; poet, konechno, soslali, svolochi, no v
obshchem - protezhe Ahmatovoj, i ne nado preuvelichivat', i voobshche u
vseh, s kem vlast' ploho oboshlas', poyavlyaetsya preuvelichennaya izvestnost'.
Potom byl eshche period, kogda Brodskij byl poetom gorodskogo masshtaba: v
Leningrade - "velikij", v stolice - predmet i primer piterskogo snobizma. Ya
ochen' horosho pomnyu eto vremya, i kogda posle Nobelevskoj premii vdrug
poyavilas' vsenarodnaya slava, dlya menya eto bylo koshchunstvo i licemerie.
Ne dolzhno byt' slavy posle premii. Ne smotrite Nobelevskomu komitetu v zuby,
chitajte sami.
Za granicej zhe delo obstoyalo tak, kak vsegda obstoit. V Brown University
Brodskogo ne izuchali, potomu chto on eshche ne umer. Izuchat' nado umershih,
o nih mnenie ustoyalos'. (Poetomu izuchali "Cement" Gladkova, prichem v
perevode). V U. of Connecticut Brodskogo prohodili. Izvestnejshaya rusistka
harbinskogo prois\cydot hozhdeniya Irene Kirk sprashivala u studentov-oluhov: pochemu
Brodskij napisal "Na Vasil'evskij Ostrov ya vernus' umirat'"? Oluhi ne znali.
Mrs Kirk otvechala: potomu chto na Vasil'evskom Ostrove nahoditsya
Universitet, t.e., stalo byt', eto vrode kak residential area vozle kampusa,
tam-to i zhivut intelligentnye lyudi.
Brodskij byl umen. Eto redkoe kachestvo u poeta. Kak-to poluchaetsya, chto
obychno umenie rassuzhdat' meshaet neposredstvennomu proyavleniyu talanta,
kak budto talant prohodit potokom ne cherez golovu, a pryamo na bumagu iz
vozduha. Etim radikal'no otlichaetsya rannij - doot`ezdnyj - Brodskij ot
posleot`ezdnogo. Do - on ne rassuzhdal, a perenosil na bumagu potok, s
kotorym ne vsegda i spravlyalsya. Ya ochen' lyublyu eti stihi, v nih est'
svezhest' i napor, kotorye on poteryal posle. Brodskij - razlyubil ih. On
byl protiv ih perepechatki, i na vopros, neuzheli on ne lyubit dazhe
"Shestvie", otvetil "Osobenno "Shestvie"". Eti stihi mnogim hotelos'
polozhit' na muzyku, i inogda eto dazhe poluchalos', u Klyachkina i Mirzayana,
hotya tut zhe oni zhe portili muzykoj drugie ego veshchi.
Posle ot`ezda Brodskij stal intellektualen i sovershenen. U nego
ischezli sluchajnye slova, i kazhdaya fraza stala mysl'yu. (Moya fraza zvuchit
ironichno, i ona i byla by ironiej v otnoshenii kogo-nibud' drugogo. Brodskij
nastol'ko talantliv, chto i v etoj ipostasi pisal genial'nye stihi - tol'ko
drugie). Interesno bylo slushat', chto on govorit; pro kakogo eshche poeta vy
eto mozhete skazat'?
I Brodskij nikogda ne vysluzhivalsya, ni v kakoj ierarhii. Eto tozhe bol'shaya
redkost' v Rossii. Mozhet byt', emu prosto povezlo. Predydushchim nado bylo
vrat', chtoby poprostu vyzhit'. Ili, inogda, oni i vpravdu zaputyvalis' -
eto proishodilo gorazdo chashche, chem sejchas hochetsya dumat', vziraya na
sovetskij stroj s nashej chechenskoj vysoty. A potom - te, kto byli protiv,
stali sozdavat' antiierarhii, i vpolne iskrenne vysluzhivat'sya v nih. Brodskij
uehal nikem, a potom byl odin. Emu ne prishlos' imet' dela ni s kakoj iz etih
ierarhij, i edinstvennoe, v chem on mog by raskaivat'sya - eto chto srazu
posle vysylki napisal pis'mo Brezhnevu, gde prosilsya nazad. Nu tak ved' ne
znal on, chto tak silen, chto sostoitsya i vne gnezda. Nebol'shoj eto greh.
No ya ne dumayu, chto emu prosto povezlo. Brodskij obladal redkim v russkoj
tradicii chuvstvom ironii. V Rossii est' smeh, satira, chernyj yumor; ironiya -
eto chuvstvo mery, kogda tebya ne zanosit, i ty smeesh'sya lish' nad tem, chto
lozhno. Dlya etogo nado obladat' etim chuvstvom lozhnogo. Brodskij im
bezuslovno obladal, a kto eshche - srazu v golovu ne prihodit. Tochnee, est',
konechno, no kak i intellektual'nost', eto svojstvo redko sochetaetsya s
tvorcheskoj genial'nost'yu: tvorchestvo sintetichno, a ironiya analitichna, i
vrode, im nechego delat' vmeste. An vot poluchilos'. Tak chto dumayu ya, chto
protivno bylo by emu igrat' rol'. No vse-taki horosho, chto ne poprosili.
Russkaya poeziya posle Brodskogo nahoditsya v strannom vide. On radikal'no
izmenil sredstva vyrazheniya. Pisat' tak, kak do nego, uzhe nel'zya, no
rezul'tat etogo obogashcheniya sovsem ne ocheviden: slishkom mnogo tekstov
kazhutsya podrazhaniyami. Avos' utryasetsya - ili, avos', poyavitsya kto-to,
komu nezachem budet pol'zovat'sya sredstvami Brodskogo. No eto lish' avos'.
Konchilas' epoha Brodskogo. Ne dlya mnogih ona - epoha Brodskogo, no poprobujte
podumat', kto ot nee ostanetsya cherez N let. Brodskij-to ostanetsya. Novaya
epoha ne budet epohoj kakogo-libo poeta. Poka chto pohozhe, chto ona budet
epohoj massovoj slepoty.
B. Velkson
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Dear Sasha,
A while ago I have posted on IR a request on behalf of a friend whose wife
had an urgent need to go to Russia and get back without problems. I have
received a decent amount of responses and forwarded all of them to the guy.
There was also a number of requests to share the obtained info. I've bugged
Boris (that's his name) for a long time to come up with some summary and he
finally has given birth to one. Which one I forward to you and it's up to
you whether to post it as is, cut into pieces or just dump. See - it's only
the "owners and coordinators" who are free to do things in this free country
:-).
Sincerely,
Sasha
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Hi folks, that's the long-awaited summary from the friend on whose behalf
I've asked your assitance with the problem "How to go to Russia and not get
stuck there..." That's a bit too long for a summary but don't blame me.
Blame Don Alejandro, that's definitely his romantic influence on
Russian-speaking American community :-).
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First of all, I want to thank all comrades who responded to my inquiry
and tried to help us in our dilemma. I am that "American guy" to whose
problem my friend Alexander alluded in his message. An ex-Russian,
actually - but that was long, long time ago. So long, I hardly remember
when, and live a happier life for it. I brought my college-time
sweetheart from Russia and married her, and thence acquired this
problem. Here is the place to answer an oft-unstated question (and
sometimes stated too) - How could she be so dumb to have changed her
last name? And the truthful answer is - she did it for love. The most
amusing for me was the opinion which often accompanied the question,
which could be stated loosely "Our Government is reasonable." Our,
meaning "ikhniy", Russkie government, that is.
Perhaps the query could have been worded better. As it was, some of
the advice we got did not make sense at all, or did not make sense for
us. In this here summary, as we said in Texas (when I was in Texas) I
ain't gonna mention those. My story will be also affected by my own
personal knowledge of the situation, the rules and regulations here and
there, experience of relatives and non-network friends, and also by my
personal knowledge of Russia and it's people (which leads to my
personal conviction that I won't go there if you paid me.)
Having said that, here's the story:
My wife has a Russian foreign passport in her maiden name and a Green
card in her new name. She came here as a tourist, we got married, she
got her status "adjusted" with the INS, got a green card, and never
knew any trouble. She of course neglected to "register" with the
Russian consulate, as one is supposed to do, and neglected to pay them
the requisite fee, which is either $50 total or $50 yearly. Travelling
abroad was not a problem, in fact we went on a European tour in
November, visiting Germany, France, Switzerland, Italy and Spain. Three
visas were required for her - United Europe, Italy and Switzerland, but
getting them in Boston was no problem at all. And getting into the US
requires just a Green card (plus a valid passport), nothing else. Just
to make sure, we took with us our marriage certificate, but were never
asked to show it.
Now here is the problem as we saw it. She gets into Russia with no
problem. On the way out she shows her tourist passport and a Green card
in a different name, which only attracts attention of the
pogranichniki. Even if they won't turn her around and tell her to
change both internal and foreign passports for a new name, we learned
on a good authority that Green Card is a sure indication to them that
you live in America permanently. Which requires a "postoyannoye
mestozhitelstvo" Russian foreign passport - unique among civilized
nations, and uncivilized too. As we were told, "OMONovtsi s avtomatami
zavorachivayut" such people. Enough to lose your appetite for
days.
So, the range of advice we got is here, in the increasing order of
desirability:
1. Take all documents in triplicate, have them translated into Russian,
submit kuda nado in Moscow, and in no time you'll be out of the
Muvvaland. We estimated 3 months waiting in Russia. Cost in roubles
unknown, cost in bribes unknown. Time spent queuing up in OVIR's
corridors unknown. Those of you who dealt with the OVIR lately know it
better than I. And just to think of an emotional price of being in jail
again? No way, Jose.
2. Get American Re-entry permit, conceal your Russian citizenship (tell
them you were a refugee before 1980 and legally rejected it), and try
to get a Russian visa. It entailed waiting for the re-entry permit
for about a week if you submit a justification of urgency (like a
telegram that you relative is dying) suitably translated into English
and certified, PLUS plausibly lying to the Russians in the Embassy. US
Government shutdown added a twist to it. It turned out that passport
issuance was deemed "non-essential." Our hope that re-entry permit
issuance was "essential" had to be rather slim. They are all made up
somewhere in Nebraska, so that the local congressional office can't
help speed it up, as was the case 4 years ago. Additionally, Boston
is not served by the Russian consulate in New York, one has to go to
Washington, which is just a small comment on the notion that "Russian
government is reasonable."
For those who don't know, Re-Entry permit is issued by INS to
permanent residents of the US, who want to travel abroad, but don't
have their native passport or don't wish to use it for some reason. It
looks somewhat like a passport, is white, narrower than the blue US
Passport, and has pages for foreign visas and stamps. It also has an
item "Claimed nationality", which would contain "Russian" in my wife's
case, unless she lied to the INS and said "stateless" in her
application. Which is not a good idea anyway, I mean lying to the INS,
if you want to remain in their good graces. Re-entry permit is
redundant if you have a green card and a valid passport. Could be
useful if you lost your green card, or your passport expired but you
didn't get American citizenship yet - that kind of thing.
I know at least one case where getting such re-entry permit proved
useless,
because the Russians denied a visa, and the person had to use her
Russian passport and pay $50 per year fine for all years she lived in
the US not having registered with the Russian embassy.
3. Go to the Russian Embassy in Washington, pay your good $500 (yes,
five hundred) and they will give you a piece of paper to the effect
that you applied for a "postoyannoye mestozhitelstvo" passport, which
you'll get in a year. Apparently the KGB will properly investigate you
and see if you are a dostoyniy predstavitel'. Or something like that.
But meanwhile, Muvvaland won't insist on keeping you locked up.
Apart from the sheer cost of it all (including air fare to Washington,
D.C., hotel, etc), paying good American dollars to the Muvvaland was
the most distressing thing of all. Personally, I'd rather burn them.
But at least this was a viable option. And probably cheaper than
bribing the OMON.
4. The best advice of all came from two or three sources, including the
Russian consul in NYC, who couldn't take $500 and give us that fil'kina
gramota, but could give a good advice. Leave through the third
country. That's exactly what my wife did.
She went to the Lithuanian consulate in NYC and explained the
situation. Normally, in invitation from someone in Lithuania is
required for a guest visa for a Russian national. The good folks in NY
consulate of Lithuania waived that requirement. The idea that the
Muvvaland would be screwed out of 500 bucks must have appealed to them
too. My wife was charged $7 ($5 + $2 for urgency). She flew Finnair, NY
- Helsinki - StPetersburg. There she bought a train ticket to Vilnius
and spend a comfortable night on the train, being only awaken by
various pogranichniki of Baltic states, who probably looked for the
kontraband. In Vilnius she boarded a Finnair plane to Helsinki, and
then the same Helsinki-NY plane that she would have flown had she left
from StPetersburg.
That's it. many thanks to all who responded. We couldn't have managed
without you.
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^Nizhnii Novgorod Governor Boris Nemtsov gave President Yeltsin a petition
signed by one million residents of his region demanding that the war in
Chechnya be ended and Russian troops be withdrawn.
CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS RESTARTED AGAINST STANKEVICH.
Stankevich, formerly a political adviser to President Yeltsin,
was accused of accepting a bribe of $10,000 for helping to arrange a
concert of Russian classical music on Red Square in 1992.
HOW A CONVICTED CRIMINAL WAS ELECTED TO THE DUMA. Mikhail Monastyrskii,
convicted of four crimes and sentenced to a total of 20 years in prison,
has become a Duma deputy on the party list of Vladimir Zhirinovsky's
Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR). Zhirinovsky dropped Monastyrskii
and 10 other candidates with a
criminal past from the LDPR list in October. However, four days AFTER
the December elections, the party asked the Central Electoral Commission
(TsIK) to reinstate Monastyrskii on its list. The TsIK decided that
Monastyrskii could be registered as a Duma deputy since its 29 November
resolution removing him from the party list had not yet been officially
published. ^ Kogda korr Izvestij sprosil odnogo funkcionera LDPR, pochemu
obychno gorduj Zhirik presmykalsya pered CIKom iz-za Monastyrskogo, tot
lyapnul, chto "Monastyrskij dlya Zhirinovskogo vse ravno chto Parvus dlya
Lenina" (Imeya vvidu tot fact chto bol'shevikov real'no finansiroval Parvus.)
Funkcioner oseksya i nachal umolyat' korrespondenta ni pri kakih
obstoyatel'stvah ne vydavat' ego imeni. "Dazhe pod pytkoj," - popytalsya
otshutit'sya zhurnalist. "Po vyrazheniyu lica funkcionera ya ponyal, chto
moya shutka okazalas' yavno neumestnoj."
^
BEETHOVEN did it apassionately
^
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I am looking for a list of US/Western firms that are heavily engaged in =
either exporting to or importing from Russia/Eastern Europe. If you =
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Dear Netters!
I am looking for an advice of someone who is familiar with
US immigration laws. I am a permanent US resident, and have
wife in Russia. We are married for 3.5 years. Her application
for immigration to the US (form I-130) is approved, but there
is a "waiting period" for another 2 years that separates
our family. Her temporary visit to the US is also excluded,
according to the immigration laws.
If you know a possible way to overcome this delay, or any other
applicable laws, I would appreciate to hear from you.
Please e-mail to aromanov@ccs.neu.edu
Thank you in advance
Regards
Alexey
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Dear netters,
a while ago I posted request asking where to find quality tapes of Russian
(Czech, Polish, so on) movies. I have got more than 50 responses (thanks
to all who replied and provided the information) and about the same number
of the inquiries to share my future findings. So, there they are:
1. Movies Unlimited. They have about 70 well known and some new Russian
movies and ~50 documentaries. Call 1-800-523-0823 to order catalogue
($10.95, they accept credit cards). The prices are high ($20-80) but they
often go down to $20. The quality is american standard, all movies are
subtitled (some dubbed). The catalogue is a good source of foreign movies
(Italy, France, Germany, Poland...).
2. Home Film Festival - an expellent sours of foreign (~50 Russian
titles) movies. Quality is american standard. Here one do not have to buy
tape(s) which are $20-80 but rent it instead for 3 days ($6 + s/h). There
is also a fee ($15) to become a member and to receive their catalogue.
Call (800)-258-3456.
3. I did not order from this source yet but it looks like this Russian
owned company sell ORIGINALS (~200 movies and documentaries), many
subtitled and dubbed, prices $20-50. "Russian Cinema", Polygon Plaza
2050 Center Ave., Suite 355, Fort Lee, NJ 07024; phone: (201) 944-8786.
There are also some others American-owned companies but I did not find any
price/choice of the movies advantage there.
Merry Christmas and Happy new year to all,
Alex Gybin
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I am interested in some appropriate contract work or other
limited time employment in Russia or the FSU.
Would any of you people happen to know of any openings for which people
would consider a Physicist with my training and experience?
I have a PhD in Physics [High energy Theory from Brown University],
several years of postdoctoral appointments in academic High Energy Theory
[Rutgers; Princeton; Imperial College, London; ICTP, Trieste], plus
several years of independent contract work [mostly mathematical modeling
with some programming]. There is also several years of highly non-trivial
industrial research experience in Condensed Matter and Polymer Physics
[Theory and Experiment] at RCA [Sarnoff] Labs., Continental Can Co., Avery
International.
As you can see, I am basically a fairly well rounded physicist with some
reasonable amount of science related computer experience. I consider
myself to be versatile, enthusiastic, and very good at making significant
contributions while getting into new things. If you think you know where
there might be some interest in me for limited time employment, please let
me know. I can, of course, get a resume out. Thank you.
In addition, I enjoy email contact and would be happy to correspond with
people on this list. As you can see from my name, my father's family came
from the region [Gomel, Belarus, 1896].
Sincerely,
Stuart Kasdan
CONTACT INFORMATION
Stuart H. Kasdan
1645 First Avenue
Apartment 303
New York, NY 10028
P. O. Box 720
Gracie Station
New York, NY 10028
212-472-9725
kasdan@dorsai.org
71643.525@compuserve.com
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From: Vladimir Jaffe
Subject: INFO-RUSS: Souvenirs mfg in CIS
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Dear Netters!
I am in search of a souvenirs manufacturer in the CIS. We would like to make them in CIS and bring
the finished products to New York.
If you know someone in this business over there we would greatly appreciate your help.
Thank you in advance.
Vladimir Jaffe
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Vladimir Jaffe Tel. (718) 830-9007
Avanti Business International, Inc. Fax (718) 997-0234
64-07 102nd Street, 3rd Floor E-mail: pp000610@interramp.com
Rego Park, NY 11374 CompuServe: 73051,1462
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Dear netters,
I'm posting this for a friend of mine; please reply directly to
pevzner@orion.rz.mdc-berlin.de
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hi,
Does anybody know how to install russian fonts for the WWW browser on
the Mac? My browser is Netscape 1.ON and I am working on Power 6100/66
Any ideas?
Regards,
Venia
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: New List: Russian-Torah
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Ierusalimskaya eshiva Shvut Ami vyxodit v CyberSpace.
Teper' vy, esli zaxotite, smozhete poluchat' kazhduyu nedelyu
- stat'i, posvyaschennye aktual'nym problemam Iudaizma
- kommentarii na nedel'nuyu glavu Tory
- informatziya, posvyaschennaya voprosam Alaxi
- otvety na Vashi voprosy
Vse vashi zamechaniya otpravlyajte po adresu
kantor@pesach.jct.ac.il.
Reuven Kantor.
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- contemprorary questions of Judaism,
- commentaries to the weekly Torah portion,
- halachik discussions,
- answers to your questions.
All this - in Russian! and with the help of Rabbis from
Shvut Ami yeshiva in Yerushalaim.
You may send your remarks or questions to Shvut Ami Rabbis
via Reuven Kantor kantor@pesach.jct.ac.il.
Postings will be in transliterated Russian.
If you want to receive other codings (KOI, Alt, Postscript)
in e-mail, please, send me a message (they will be also on the
Web shortly).
Yasher Koah, Reuven!
Simcha, simcha@shamash.org
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Dear netters,
Those of you who are computer literate please help.
Or at least please give me some directions (where to look).
Or may be refer to people who know the answer.
I really need good advice.
Problem:
To set up an internet www page where visitors can subscribe to different
periodic Email newsletters.
More specifically:
Can you recommend an easy way to automatically process email requests and
generate lists of email addresses (separate list for each newsletter) for
subsequent emailings? Also it may be good to generate
a contact database (to store more information, like person's name, date
of subscription, phone number, etc.).
System should be able to work with thousands of subscribers.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
If you prefer to talk over the phone - please let me know and I call you on
my expense.
--
Lev Selector, Ph.D.
680 Ft.Washington Ave. #4E
New York, NY 10040
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: Fattakhov to be Free
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From: Pamela B. Cohen, UCSJ National President
Helene Kenvin, President, the Caucusus Network and attorney
for the Fattakhov family
Micah H. Naftalin, UCSJ National Director
Subject: INFO-RUSS: Dmitrii Fattakhov Update
All of you who have been acting on behalf of Dmitrii Fattakhov will
be pleased to know, and should take great pride, that your actions,
your calls and letters and petitions, have saved his life. With
the help of the Almighty, you did it. Thank you. Details follow:
DMITRII FATTAKHOV TO BE FREED
(February 1, 1996) In a surprise telephone call today, Uzbekistan's Foreign
Minister notified the American Embassy in Tashkent that his government will
permit the evacuation of Dmitrii Fattakhov and his mother to Israel next week for
medical treatment.
Today's decision, made by Uzbek President Islam Karimov, comes on the heels of
a visit by a joint delegation of Western diplomats to Dmitrii earlier today at the
state psychiatric hospital where he is being held incommunicado. They found him
in a deteriorated state, emotionally and physically, since last seen in December,
and now is "weak, wizened and disoriented, recuperating from pneumonia and
severe weight loss" -- all attributable to his torture while in police custody last
May.
"We welcome this high level decision, which is the direct result of a world-wide
campaign spearheaded by the Union of Councils and The Caucasus Network, and
assisted decisively by top U.S. government officials in Tashkent and Washington,"
declared Pamela B. Cohen, UCSJ national president, and Helene Kenvin, president
of the Network and attorney for the Fattakhov family.
Further, Frieda Fattakhov, Dmitrii's mother, confirmed to Kenvin today that
Uzbek officials have already begun to process travel documents, and that the
Israeli consulate is making preparations for their evacuation.
"Three crucial events have been turning points in this campaign," according to
Cohen: "(i) Kenvin's and UCSJ national director Micah H. Naftalin's meeting last
October in New York with Uzbek Foreign Minister Abdulaziz Kamilov and
Ambassador Fatikh Teshabaev, which sensitized the Foreign Minister to the
importance and merits of Dmitrii's case; (ii) coordination in Tashkent of Western
diplomatic contacts and monitoring, chief among them the American, British and
German embassies, by U.S. Ambassador Stanley Escudero; and (iii) the recent
direct appeal of Ambassador-at-Large James Collins, the top U.S. official
coordinating U.S. foreign policy for the former Soviet Union."
"This campaign, in all likelihood, saved the life of Dmitrii Fattakhov." Mrs. Cohen
noted. "When human rights violations occur at local levels, governments
ultimately will be judged by how they respond. Beyond today's decision, it is our
hope that Mr. Karimov will bring the perpetrators of this torture to justice, drop
the charges against the two innocent co-defendants, and renew efforts to find
the murderer."
"The Fattakhov family appreciates this humanitarian gesture by the government
of Uzbekistan and is deeply grateful for the diplomatic support and community
advocacy on Dmitrii's behalf that led to this result, " said Mrs. Kenvin. "This
has been a long ordeal and it will not be over until Dmitrii and his mother are
in Israel and he is receiving the medical treatment that he so desperately needs."
Other organization leaders participated in the coordination of the Fattakhov
campaign -- Jacob Birnbaum, founder of The Center for Russian Jewry with
Student Struggle for Soviet Jewry; Inna Arolovich, vice president, American
Association of Russian Jews; Lynn Singer, director of UCSJ affiliate Long Island
Committee for Soviet Jewry; and Joyce Simpson of the London-based 35's Women's
Campaign for Soviet Jewry.
Respondents to the grass roots effort included: the Congressional Helsinki
Commission, Human Rights Caucus and dozens of other congressmen and senators;
Amnesty International; Aish HaTorah and Agudath Israel; UCSJ's 30 affiliated
local action Soviet Jewry councils; a number of Anglo/Jewish and Israeli
newspapers and magazines and, most importantly, the outpouring of letters and
petitions from nearly 15,000 individuals world-wide who were alerted through the
Internet.
/
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From: Mark Markish
Subject: INFO-RUSS: A Work by Antokolsky
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Attention all, especially those in Germany:
"In the castle of Wolfgarten in Darmstadt there is preserved
a bust of Elizabeth chiseled in white marble by the famous
Russian sculptor Antokolsky"
A professional quality photo of the above mentioned sculpture
is being sought. If anyone can share a copy, please mail it to
Mark Markish, 85 Belmont St., #4A, Lowell, MA 01851 USA,
or send any related information via e-mail to mmarkish@tiac.net.
Many thanks, sincerely, -- mark
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From: EShindelma@aol.com
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: Newspapers in Kiev
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Could someone explain how many newspapers there are in Kiev? Specifically,
are there Dailys, Weeklies, Jewish or other regional special interest type
newspapers?
Second, could anyone supply a contact name or address for these papers if I
was interested in posting an ad searching for information regarding a small
town, Lyubar, Volynskaya, Gubernya circa 1890-1945 for genealogy purposes.
How much would I be expected to pay for such an ad?
Thanks!
Ellen Shindelman
eshindelma@aol.com
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From: bibikov@biology.utah.edu (Sergei Bibikov)
Subject: INFO-RUSS: Russian for Mac
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For Apple Macintosh users:
I have constructed russian fonts for reading russian newspaper Izvestija
from Russia-on-line and analog of KOI-8 for Russian sites on the Internet.
Though Apple suggested some fonts, they usually require complete
russification of the existing computer. My fonts operate in the US
environment.
You can download folders with fonts from my homepage in U of U:
http://www.cc.utah.edu/~sb10a50/
Any comments, questions, reclamations and lawsuits please direct to my
E-mail address.
The fonts have a couple of bugs - due to the strange recoding capital
letters "e-oborotnoje" in Izvestija and "tschsch" in KOI-8 analog are
missing. You can print the russian texts from Netscape and Mosaic directly
on the Laser printer, however sometimes postscript errors occur.
Izvestija is a democratically minded newspaper supporting Egor Gaidar and Co.
Last issue reflects the life and death of Joseph Brodsky.
Yours,
Sergei Bibikov
Biology Department
University of Utah
Salt Lake City, UT
84112
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: Green Card Lottery Rules
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:56:26
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Dear IR-folks,
as a winner of the previous lottery I know how helpful these rules are
to so many potential applicants. Here they are. The new lottery
starts on Febr.12 and ends March 12. Best of luck.
--Misha Galperin
--- Forwarded message follows ---
Here's the transcript of the abbreviated State Department instructions for
the DV-97 green card lottery (the VisaBulletin #59A has a longer version).
=====================================================
INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE 1997 DIVERSITY IMMIGRANT VISA PROGRAM (DV-97)
The Immigration Act of 1990 provides for an annual diversity
immigration program, making available each year by random selection
55,000 permanent residence visas in the United States. Visas are
apportioned among six geographic regions based on immigration rates
over the last five years, with a greater number of visas going to
regions with lower rates of immigration.
Africa includes all countries on the African continent and adjacent
islands; Asia extends from Israel to the Northern Pacific islands,
including Indonesia; Europe extends from Greenland to Russia,
including all countries of the former USSR; North America is Canada
and the Bahamas; Oceania includes Papua New Guinea and all
countries and islands of the South Pacific; South America includes
Central America, Mexico and the Caribbean countries.
ENTRIES MUST BE RECEIVED BETWEEN FEBRUARY 12, 1996 AND MARCH 12,
1996. Entries received before or after those dates will be
disqualified regardless of when they are postmarked.
STEP ONE: CAN I ENTER?
You are not eligible to apply if you were born in one of the
following countries:
>For 1997, the ineligible countries are: CHINA (Mainland and
Taiwan), INDIA, PHILIPPINES, VIETNAM, SOUTH KOREA, UNITED KINGDOM
(except Northern Ireland), CANADA, MEXICO, JAMAICA, EL SALVADOR,
COLOMBIA, and the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, and their dependent areas.
Natives of Hong Kong and Northern Ireland are eligible to enter.
If you were born in an ineligible country but your spouse was not,
you can claim your spouse's country of birth instead of your own.
If you were born in a country where neither of your parents resided
at the time, you may be able to claim one of their countries of
birth.
STEP TWO: DO I MEET THE EDUCATION OR TRAINING REQUIREMENT?
Applicants under the diversity program must have either:
>a high school education or its equivalent; defined as successful
completion of 12 years of education comparable to a U.S. high
school degree, or
>two years of work experience within the past five years in an
occupation requiring at least two years training or experience;
U.S. Department of Labor definitions will apply.
Documentary proof of education or work experience should NOT be
submitted at this time. It will be required later if your entry is
selected.
STEP THREE: HOW DO I COMPLETE AN ENTRY?
>Only ONE entry may be submitted by or for each applicant during
the registration period.
>Submission of more than one entry will disqualify you.
>There is no special application form. Simply provide the
following information on a plain sheet of paper, typed or clearly
printed in the English alphabet.
ON A PLAIN SHEET OF PAPER INCLUDE:
==========================================================
1. APPLICANT'S FULL NAME (LAST NAME SHOULD BE UNDERLINED)
Last name, First Name and Middle Name
EXAMPLE: .Public., George Quincy
2. APPLICANT'S DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH
Date: Day, Month, Year
EXAMPLE: 15 November 1961
Place: City/Town; District/County/Province; Country
EXAMPLE: Munich, Bavaria, Germany
3. NAME, DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH OF APPLICANT'S SPOUSE AND CHILDREN
(IF ANY)
If you are selected, your unmarried children under 21 years of age
and your spouse can also apply for visas.
4. APPLICANT'S MAILING ADDRESS
The mailing address must be clear and complete, since that is the
address where the notification and instruction letter for persons
selected for registration will be sent. A telephone number is
optional, but useful.
5. APPLICANT'S NATIVE COUNTRY IF DIFFERENT FROM COUNTRY OF BIRTH
Clearly specify your claim of chargeability to another country (see
above).
6. SUBMIT A RECENT PHOTOGRAPH OF YOURSELF, 1 AND 1/2 INCHES SQUARE
(37 mm X 37 mm) WITH YOUR NAME PRINTED ON THE BACK
7. YOU MUST SIGN THE APPLICATION
============================================================
STEP FOUR: WHERE DO I MAIL MY ENTRY?
>Submit your entry by regular mail or air mail to the address
matching the region where you were born.
>Entries may not be sent by express mail, fax, hand, messenger, or
any means requiring receipts or special handling.
>Envelopes should be business or letter size, between 6 and 10
inches long (15 cm to 25 cm) and between 3 1/2 and 4 1/2 inches
wide (9 cm to 11 cm). Postcards are not acceptable.
>You must list your country of birth (See STEP ONE on previous
page), name and mailing address in the upper left corner of the
envelope.
>Failure to comply with these instructions will disqualify your
entry. Complete your envelope following the example on the
envelope below.
>Use the correct postal ZIP code for your region:
ASIA: DV-97 Program
National Visa Center
Portsmouth, NH 00210
U.S.A.
SOUTH AMERICA: DV-97 Program
National Visa Center
Portsmouth, NH 00211
U.S.A.
EUROPE: DV-97 Program
National Visa Center
Portsmouth, NH 00212
U.S.A.
AFRICA: DV-97 Program
National Visa Center
Portsmouth, NH 00213
U.S.A.
OCEANIA: DV-97 Program
National Visa Center
Portsmouth, NH 00214
U.S.A.
NORTH AMERICA: DV-97 Program
National Visa Center
Portsmouth, NH 00215
U.S.A.
Registrants will be selected at random from among entries received
according to the instructions above.
EXAMPLE ((ENVELOPE, NOT TO SCALE))
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Your Country of birth +
Your Full Name +
Your Street Address +
City, Province, Postal Code +
Country +
+
DV-97 Program +
National Visa Center +
Portsmouth, NH 00___ +
(see above for zip!) +
U.S.A. +
+
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
HOW WILL I FIND OUT IF I AM SELECTED?
A computer will make a random selection from among all qualified
entries in each geographical region no later than July 1, 1996.
Successful applicants will be notified by mail, at the mailing
address listed on the entry. Persons not selected will NOT be
notified. (U.S. embassies and consulates will not be able to
provide a list of successful applicants.)
Individuals selected will be registered to apply for immigrant
visas, and will be provided further instructions. Their spouses
and unmarried minor children can also apply for visas. Applicants
must meet all eligibility requirements under U.S. law to be issued
visas.
Important Notice
There is NO fee to enter the DV-97 program. The use of an outside
intermediary or assistance to prepare a DV-97 entry is entirely at
the applicant's discretion. Qualified entries received directly
from applicants or through intermediaries have equal chance of
being selected.
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Proschanie s Brodskim - Farewell to Joseph Brodsky
Poeticheskii vecher - Poetry Reading
uhastvuyut: with
Evgenii Rein (Moskva), Ludmila Shtern (Boston)
February 11, Sunday 5 pm
Boston University, Morse Auditorium
602 Commonwealth Ave Boston
Bileti v magazinah - Tickets sold in the stores:
Lavka Chitatelya, Berezka, Babushka Deli, Bazar, Food of Europe
Simcha Streltsov
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Hi folks,
I gonna relocate to Washington, DC, on Feb. 17-18. Prior to moving
the whole family, I'd like to collect info about the area,schools,housing, etc.
So for 2 - 3 months I want to rent a small apartment with furniture
somewhere in the Prince George's County.
The better (the cheaper) option would be to find a house for
"house-sitting" with owners being or going on a long trip.
I'd appreciate any info sent to me. Thanks.
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Dr. Gregory G. Leptoukh tel: (919) 515-8115
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North Carolina State University
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Here is an open postdoc position:
Postdoc position:
-----------------
I have a postdoc position to fill within a HCM contract. The person has to
be of non-german- but EU- or EU-associated nationality. The total amount of
money available is approximately 25.ooo ECU which can be paid net without
any reduction. I am looking for somebody who is either experienced in optics
and/or surface physics. If you know somebody who would like to join us for
some time please ask him to send me an email or to contact me otherwise.
Sincerely
Wolfgang Richter
-------------------------------
Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Richter
Technische Universitaet Berlin
Hardenbergstr. 36
10623 Berlin, Germany
Tel: +49-30-314-22078
Fax: +49-30-314-21769
emails: rich0431@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de
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>From coordinator: Folks, as my intro-lines say: "info-russ bears no
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This is a posting by BorisKa400@aol.com:
I am a Russian native and am facing return to Russia as my visa expires and
want to seek your adivise on the following. I am not Jewish either by
nationality, upbringing, or faith. Being in US for some time I have been
exposed to Judaism through my friends and Russian/ ex-USSR immigrants.
If I accept Jewish faith will this be of help for me to stay in US? Will this
help me in asking for political asylum? How does INS treat cases like this?
Do you know of any attorneys who can help here?
I would appreciate any help and advise on the subject. I welcome comments of
those who stayed in US on similar grounds.
Spasibo /Thanks/
Boris Karasev
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I am a permanent resident of the US. I plan to bring my younger
brother here for a couple of months on B-2. However, he is only sixteen.
Does any one know what is the minimum age for
getting US visa and entering the US BY HIMSELF, WITHOUT
ADULTS??? Is it 16 or 18?
Thanks in advance
Alex Volkov avolkov1@sss.cba.ua.edu
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Dear INFO-RUSS users:
If any of you or your friends know a 9-10 years old girl who speaks
English as a native language and is willing to become a pen-pal of my 9 year
old daughter, please let this girl know the following address: Anya
Miroshnichenko, P.O.Box 225, Saratov 410005, Russia. ( Anya studies English
for the second year and dreams about having a pen-pal in the US.)
Please make this girl aware of postal delays -- it usually takes not less
than five-six weeks to receive a reply to the letter sent to Saratov.
Thank you very much.
Best regards,
AS
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:) Arseniy Streltsov, AStreltsov@vax.clarku.edu
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Fashisty i El'cin, Chechnja i demokraty.
12/02/1996
1.
Zakonchivshijsja v Sankt-Peterburge segodnja s'ezd russkih
nacionalistov (uchastvovali kak melkie gruppki, tak i RNE
Barkasheva i nac.-bol'shevistskaja partija Edichki Limonova) prinjal
soglasovannoe reshenie podderzhat' kandidaturu B.N.El'cina na
post prezidenta RF.
Soobschenie "Izvestij" za vtornik, chto s'ezd podderzhal Zjuganova,
ne sootvetstvuet dejstvitel'nosti. Ego kandidatura
dejstvitel'no obsuzhdalas', no El'cin vzjal verh - po krajnej
mere v etoj kategorii elektorata.
Russkie fashisty ochen' odobritel'no otozvalis' o chechenskoj
politike El'cina. Vmeste s tem, ot Zjuganova opasajutsja
repressij - otmeny registracij partij, dazhe ugolovnyh del po
74 stat'e. Na s'ezde otmechalos', chto i v etom smysle
"kandidatura El'cina naimenee nepriemlema".
Drugie vozmozhnye kandidaty - Lebed', Zhirinovskij (nabljudateli
ot etih politikov byli na s'ezde) byli otvergnuty bez
kakogo-libo obsuzhdenija.
2.
V Groznom v subbotu zakonchilsja mnogodnevnyj miting v zaschitu
nezavisimosti. Kak govoritsja, mirno - to est' ne proizoshlo
massovogo rasstrela. Vojska s utra subboty neskol'ko raz
otkryvali ogon', ubito ot 4 do 8 chelovek. Organizatory dali
soglasie raspustit' miting, esli ego uchastnikam pozvoljat
razojtis'. Eto pozvolenie bylo dano.
V Groznom prohodjat aresty uchastnikov mitinga, opoznannym po
videozapisjam.
Tem vremenem, v "Izvestijah" proishodit polemika na temu "Chto zhe
na samom dele proizoshlo v Pervomajskoj?" Odnu tochku zrenija
predstavljaet anonimnyj chinovnik prokuratury, veduschij
rassledovanie, druguju - korrespondent V.Jakov, translirujuschij
poziciju voennyh.
V chem oni shodjatsja? Chto poteri chechencev sostavljajut 53 (pervaja
versija) ili primerno 66 (vtoraja) ubitymi i 9 plennymi iz otrjada
bolee chem v 200 boevikov. Chto poteri federalov znachitel'no
bol'she, chem nazyvaetsja, i chto prinjaty reshitel'nye mery, chtoby
ob ih razmere nikto ne uznal (chinovnik prokuratury upominaet o
pustyh patronnyh jaschikah, zapolnennyh krov'ju). Raznoglasie po
voprosu, byl li ostavlen (umyshlenno ili po nedosmotru)
"koridor" (kak utverzhdajut sledovateli na osnove "najdennoj v
grjazi polevoj karty"). V ljubom sluchae priznaetsja, chto bol'shaja
chast' vojsk (ne menee 2500 soldat, 3 Grada, 1 tank, desjatki BMP
i BTR, 10 vertoletov) byla zanjata na ohrane ot kontrudara shtaba
gruppirovki (nahodivshegosja na vostok ot sela, v protivopolozhnoj
storone ot Tereka). Nel'zja ne priznat', chto eta zadacha byla
reshena.
Neposredstvennyj uchastok proryva prikryvalsja 38 soldatami
specnaza GRU. Eto podrazdelenie bylo pochti polnost'ju unichtozheno
chechencami. V kachestve prichiny porazhenija superelitnoj chasti
nazyvaetsja otsutstvie podkreplenij (poverili, ponimaete,
sobstvennoj propagande, chto v sele pochti net zhivyh), a takzhe
ustalost' soldat ot bessonnicy, holoda i goloda.
3.
Prodolzhaetsja tvorcheskij poisk Gajdarom lidera demokraticheskih
sil. Na dnjah on prizval vseh-vseh-vseh podderzhat' "svjazku
Nemcov-prezident - Javlinskij-prem'er" (vsem horoshuju, krome
togo, chto ne predusmotrena konstituciej). Javlinskij na etot raz
(ustami Shejnisa) vezhlivo poblagodaril "za neustannyj poisk
putej splochenija demsil", zato Nemcov ne tol'ko rezko otkazalsja,
no i zajavil, chto u nih s Gajdarom byl ob etoj idee razgovor v
Davose, i on uzhe togda ee otverg. Voobsche, pohozhe, u Gajdara
talant navjazyvat' uslugi reklamnogo agenta ljudjam, kotorye uzhe
uspeli ot nih otkazat'sja (drugoj takoj "edinyj demokraticheskij
kandidat" - Chernomyrdin, kotoryj ne ustaet kljast'sja, chto u nego
"i v mysljah net").
Na prohodivshem v voskresen'e zasedanii pravlenija DVR i plenume
moskovskoj organizacii partii Gajdaru popenjali za
soglashatel'stvo s Javlinskim. Demokraticheskaja obschestvennost'
ukazala, chto sovmestnyj prezident (skazhem, Javlinskij) mozhet na
sledujuschij den' otkazat'sja sobljudat' uslovija soglashenija o
podderzhke edinoj kandidatury. "A my Ja. ne nastol'ko doverjaem".
Vidit Bog, kak oni pravy! Tol'ko ob etom stoilo dumat' dva goda
nazad, osen'ju 93-go, kogda s entuziazmom podderzhivali imenno
takuju konstituciju. "Jabloko", mezhdu prochim, bylo protiv.
V rezul'tate prinjali na redkost' idiotskoe reshenie: vydvigat'
Gajdara (v "svjazke" s Chubajsom), no ogovorit', chto "prinimat'
uchastie v zakljuchitel'noj faze vyborov my ne sobiraemsja".
A ved' esche nedavno u cheloveka bylo amplua "davajte zabudem nashi
melkie raznoglasija..."
Vash Alik
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Hi, IR-folks
Life is strange thing. I've met russian guy living in Jewish autonomic region,
Birobidjan-city. He is Head of Literature Department. His institute is looking
for US, Western, Israel cultural contacts,etc. He will be in US next 2 weeks
,so any interesting can e-mail me.
Otherwise his e-mail: root@tolst.bir.ru
ph.42622-4-01-46, fax. 42622-6-43-57
Name: Pavel Nikolayevitch Tolstoguzov
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I have a problem and I am looking for advice from anyone who might have had
the same experience.
I am using a windows laptop and was running windows 3.1 and decided to
upgrade to windows '95. I am running CyrilWin for typing my cyrillic
documents (I do a ton) and under windows '95 it is not working. I don't
recall where my orginial disks are for windows 3.1 so I am in desperate need
of learning about any CyrilWin upgrades to run under windows '95 or any
tweeks to use to make my current version of CyrilWin work.
Please e-mail suggestions &/or testimonials to Solnishko or
andrein@capaccess.org.
Thanks!
Erin & Andrei Nikitchyuk
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Agonija
Hi folks! 15/02/1996
Segodnja El'cin ob'javil v Ekaterinburge, chto on budet ballotirovat'sja
na novyj srok. Eto sobytie soprovozhdalos' obstojatel'stvami,
napominajuschimi o konce "brezhnevskogo" perioda Sovetov. Imenno, rech'
E. translirovalas' v prjamom efire, odnako v rajone desjatoj ee minuty
peredatchiki byli otkljucheny - vozniklo somnenie, chto E. smozhet ee
okonchit' (on govoril "metallicheskim", hripjaschim golosom). Transljacija
rechi byla prodolzhena v zapisi, kogda on ee zakonchil. Chto-to
napominajuschee obmorok Brezhneva na 26 s'ezde.
Ponimaja hotja by iz etogo primera vazhnost' TV, on tut zhe zajavil o
snjatii direktora Rossijskogo TV Popcova s motivirovkoj "chernuhu
gonit v efir". V krajnej faze nahoditsja konflikt E. s NTV - sluzhbu
novostej kompanii lishili kremlevskoj akkreditacii, na sledujuschij den'
vlasti snesli ee reklamnoe sooruzhenie, vidnoe s pravitel'stvennoj
trassy, i nakonec, sovetnik prezidenta, "liberal i matematik"
G.Satarov ob'javil, chto reshenie s'ezda russkih nacionalistov
(Barkasheva, Limonova i pr.) podderzhat' kandidaturu El'cina
"inscenirovano NTV".
V tom zhe Ekaterinburge E. ob'javil ob areste "za osobo opasnye i
krupnye prestuplenija" byvshego i.o. genprokurora Il'jushenko.
Harakterno, chto za te dva goda, kotorye on provel v statuse i.o.,
El'cin mnogo raz predstavljal ego na utverzhdenie parlamentu i vsjakij
raz vstrechalsja s pochti edinodushnym soprotivleniem: "Nu vse zhe, B.N.,
nel'zja uzh sovsem tak, otkrovennogo prestupnika... nu dobro by
ministrom, skazhem, finansov, a to genprokurorom...". A teper' vot,
vyhodit, "Lavrenij Palych Berija vyshel iz doverija".
A esche E. vnov' uzhestochil svoju poziciju po otnosheniju k Chechne: vyvod
vojsk budet, no tol'ko posle polnogo unichtozhenija "bandformirovanij".
V Groznom, vidimo, v kachestve simvolicheskogo akta nachato razrushenie
vzryvom ostatkov prezidentskogo dvorca.
V obschem, skladyvaetsja vpechatlenie, chto eto uzhe nachalo konca. Pojmut
li eto rasporjaditeli finansovyh i inyh resursov predvybornoj gonki,
ili stavka na trup budet prodolzhat'sja do otkljuchenija reanimacionnyh
apparatov?
Vash Alik
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From: sasha@smarty.ece.jhu.edu (Alexander E. Kaplan)
Date: Thu, Feb 15 19:30:00 EST
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: new-born Jewish bro
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Dear IR-folks,
A few days ago I posted a msg from some Boris Karasev,
BorisKa400@aol.com, our new-born Jewish buddy, who wrote:
"...I am not Jewish either by nationality, upbringing, or faith.
Being in US for some time I have been exposed to Judaism through
my friends and Russian/ ex-USSR immigrants. If I accept Jewish
faith will this be of help for me to stay in US? Will this help
me in asking for political asylum? How does INS treat cases like
this? Do you know of any attorneys who can help here?"
Just for the record: he is not saying that he has already accepted
or converted into Judaism; he is just testing the water and trying
to see whether he can get any brownie points, if he does.
A new-born-Jew-to-be is carefully considering whether to be born
or not. This is OK; at least he shows some cautious traits of
his new-tribe-to-be(:-).
Anyway, a few compassion-driven souls (another trait of that tribe:-)
have replied him with copies sent to me.
Below are excerpts from these replies, covering most of the significant
aspects of the problem, complete with the names&addresses of their
originators; read them on your own risk(:-) and reply directly to them
(as usual). I am also putting in some little notes on my own at the end;
feel free to flame me directly for those.
Alex Kaplan
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From: yluryi@julian.uwo.ca (Yuri Luryi)
To: BorisKa400@aol.com
Subject: BEING HUMAN BEING (Re: INFO-RUSS: Becoming Jewish in US)
Boris, Na pervyj vzgliad Vash "zapros" kazhetsia otnyud' ne
nevinnoj shutkoj chlena obshchestva barkashevykh i prochej nelyudi.
Uzh bol'no mnogo v nem nenuzhnykh svedenij, a nuzhnykh net.
Neizvestno, naprimer, kakaia u Vas spetsial'nost', i v kakom shtate
Vy zhivete. Immigratsiia v Shtaty ne sviazana s natsional'nost'yu.
Ee oshovnye ustoi eto ili gumannost' (priniatie RUSSKIKH,
spasavshikhsia ot revolyutsii,naprimer), ili interesy
gosudarstva (specialist vysokogo klassa v oblasti, gde
takie spetsialisty nuzhny). Priem evreev iz fashistskoj Germanii
ili iz polu-fashistskogo CCCP sochetal oba printsipa.
Ia otvechayu Vam iskhodia iz printsipa presumptsii Vashej
dobroporiadochnosti. .... Itak, povtorite svoj vopros,
soobshchite v nem tol'ko neobkhodimye svedeniia, k kakim nalichie
ili otsutstvie krajnej ploti na Vashem chlene ne otnositsia.
Yurij LuryI
Professor of Law, Senior Fellow, University of Toronto
Centre for Russian and East European Studies
712-1510 Richmond Street, Tel: 519-858-0221
London, Ontario N6G 4V2 CANADA FAX: 519-661-3790 or 519-858-0837
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From: "Evgenia V. Voskresenskaya"
To: BorisKa400@aol.com
Subject: Re: INFO-RUSS: Becoming Jewish in US
Hi Boris!
I do not have any wise advice for you. I just wish you lots of luck,
especially with the INS. The reason I am replying, actually, is that
your message made me recall a joke. Here it goes:
Dva evreya moytsya v bane. Odin dolgo razglyadivaet drugogo i
nakonetz govorit: "Poslushaite, Rabinovich... Vy ili trusiki
naden'te ili krestik snimite".
Regards, Zhenia Voskresenskaya
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From: "Gennadi Kazakevitch"
Subject: Re: INFO-RUSS: Becoming Jewish in US
Dear Boris,
There is no point in becoming a Jew.
It is better to convert to Australian Aboriginality.
You will have rights for life time Aboriginal Social
Security Allowance (Higher than unemployment benefit),
discounted prescribed drugs, public transport fares,
electricity bills, housing supplied by the Kind
Uncle Australian Federal Government and more.
Good luck / Lehitraot ve Shalom
Gennadi Kazakevitch, a Jew
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Comments by the "owner/coordinator" (AK).
The last suggestion (to convert into Australian Aboriginality)
seems to be the most practical and humane (see, Gena Kazakevitch
stopped short of advising our Jew-to-be to convert into a kangaroo
or, say, marsupial rat, who got to be even better protected as
endangered species...).
Anyway, since our reluctant newly-Jewish buddy resides in the States,
he may soon find himself in the situation outlined by our
off-the-wall friend, Don Alejandro Nalpak, in his "Otvalivshiesya
mysli" a year ago:
""Evrei, evrei, krugom odni evrei", bormotal Potylyts'ko, oformlyayas'
v Jewish Family Service."
After all, it is simple to do: go to New York, where there are plenty
of unscrupulous immigration lawyers, who for a couple thousands bucks
will make you a Jew suffering in hands of blood-sucking sov-authorities,
and looking for a political asylum..
Somehow, one can take a liberty of assuming that our new-born-Jewish
friend would have probably abstained from converting into Judaism in
Nazi Germany or in any other place occupied by Nazis during World
War II... This not to say anything negative about him: there were
not that many takers of such an eccentric decision at the moment...
There were exception, of course, but understandably, very few...
My dad, let his soul rest in peace, for he was a man of unyielding,
unquiet and fighting spirit, told me this story. As a sapper, and an
expert on land-mines, he went through the entire war of 1941-45, from
its very first day (at the West Ukraine border), when his unit took
a terrible beating from the rolling German army, till the Spring of 1945,
when he bailed out by getting severely injured in Rumania while moving
now to the West... Being in the land-mine business, it was a miracle
that he survived the war. A few years before WWII, he graduated from
Kiev "Gornaya Academia" (Mining Inst.); one of his instructors there
was an old Armenian, a professor of math. After Red Army wrestled Kiev
back away from Germans, my dad, who was one of those who did it, tried
to find any relatives left in Kiev, but to no avail. However, he heard
a story about his old Armenian professor. In apparent mistake, Germans
arrested him as a Jew. When a column of Jews in the Kiev streets was
being herded by German soldiers toward Babii Yar, and a gawking crowd was
cheering that little entertainment, somebody recognized the old professor
in the column and shouted to him: "You are not a Jew; we can verify it
to Germans; why should you die?". The old man's answer was:
"If Jews can have it, I can have it too..."
(Many, many years later, not a long while ago, my dad finally found
out how his own dad and mom, my grandies, died. Apprehended by the
Germans in the countryside in the winter of 1941-42, they were herded,
along with other Jews, into a semi-frozen river, with the icy water
reaching their throats. A few hours later, those still alive were
shot by soldiers who got tired of waiting.)
I guess, the "friends and Russian/ ex-USSR immigrants" whom our
visa-seeker talked to, being nasty and bad Jews as they are, forgot
to tell him about these little contingences. But we shouldn't worry
about him, anyway: when the push come to shove, I guess, he will
easily switch into any new faith convenient at the moment...
Shalom/privet/so-long to all of you, of any faith and ethnicity!:-)
-- Alex Kaplan, INFO-RUSS owner/coordinator
Kaplan's www site address: http://psi.ece.jhu.edu/~kaplan
INFO-RUSS site address:
http://psi.ece.jhu.edu/~kaplan/IRUSS/inforuss.html
P. S. The IR-subscribers who sent their msgs to BorisKa400@aol.com,
letted me know that this account is not functional anymore. Well, I
hope its owner has access to info-russ one way and another and thus
can use whatever information here may be helpful to him ...
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Dear Networkers,
I am looking for e-mail address (or other coordinates) of
Bronnikov Vladimir Arcad'evich who lives in St. Petersburg
and worked in Leningrad University ("kafedra" biophysics).
Thanks for help.
Ilya Rybak
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Hi,
I am looking for somebody going to Saratov, Russia (from Israel) to send
a "gostevoj vyzov". Please call me 03-6193955 (home) or 03-9245331 (work)
or e-mail shenkman@math.tau.ac.il.
Thank you in advance, Pavel Shenkman
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Dear IR-folks,
On behalf of a friend, I am looking for Mrs. Inga Retenbaher
(the spelling is approximately transliterated from Russian).
She could be about 70-75 years old; she was born in Austria
and used to be an owner of a small cafe in Vienna right after
the end of World War II. She spent many years in Soviet Gulag;
released in the middle of 1950th, she left for Germany, and after
that -- for the US. Most likely, she (hopefully) lives now in the
States. The lady who would be happy to hear from (or about) her,
used to be her friend and fellow inmate in a KGB labor camp back
in Russia; the first name of that lady is Alla; she emigrated
from Moscow to Canada many years ago.
Anybody who has any clues about Mrs. Inga Retenbaher's whereabouts,
please get in touch with me (see my address, phones and e-mail at
the bottom of this msg). Thanks in advance.
With best wishes,
Alex Kaplan
Alexander E. Kaplan Tel: (410) 516-7018
Dept. of Electr. & Comp. Eng. Home: (410) 366-3056
The Johns Hopkins University Fax: (410) 516-5566
3400 N. Charles St. E-mail: sasha@super.ece.jhu.edu
Baltimore, MD 21218, USA http://psi.ece.jhu.edu/~kaplan
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Fel'dfebeli i Vol'tery
19/02/1996
1. Fel'dfebeli.
Na proshloj nedele ministr vnutrennih del, general armii (t.e.
"fel'dmarshal zhandarmerii") Kulikov vystupil s interesnoj
ekonomicheskoj iniciativoj. On predlozhil, dlja pokrytija dolgov
bjudzheta pered miliciej i armiej, nacionalizirovat' naibolee
krupnye i preuspevajuschie kompanii ("Gazprom", banki pervoj
desjatki) i za schet ih aktivov vypravit' deficit. Dlja
iskljuchenija dal'nejshego deficita - otkazat'sja ot objazatel'stv
po podderzhaniju kursa rublja i smelee igrat' na valjutnom rynke.
Na vopros zhurnalista, javljaetsja li marshal avtorom etoj idei, ot
otvetil, chto, hotja on i imeet stepen' doktora ekonomicheskih
nauk (po special'nosti "voennaja ekonomika"), no dannyj plan
razrabotala bol'shaja gruppa ekonomistov iz Akademii MVD "nu tam
iz chisla zanimajuschihsja orgprestupnost'ju".
Po nyneshnim vremenam (s uchetom drejfa Zjuganova k pokaznoj
umerennosti) etot plan vygljadit radikal'nee, chem predlozhenija
kommunistov. Stoit dobavit', chto v to vremja kak u kommi
nacionalizacionnye idei hotja by javljajutsja chast'ju programmy
rekonstrukcii (nezavisimo ot ee dobrokachestvennosti), Kulikov
predlagaet chistyj i neprikrytyj grabezh.
Prodolzhenie temy sleduet...
2. Vol'tery.
Glavnyj Zhurnalist RF Evgenij Kiselev posvjatil vsju svoju
polutorachasovuju programmu "Itogi" (NTV) teme "Kak El'cinu
pobedit' na vyborah?" Pri etom ekonomisty i politologi v
osnovnom sklonjalis' k otvetu "nikak", a psihologi i
specialisty po politicheskoj taktike otmechali "moschnyj start" i
davali rekomendacii tipa "nado pridumat' chto-to sovsem
neozhidannoe". Popytki opisat' eto vozmozhnoe neozhidannoe
privodili na pamjat' iskljuchitel'no slova Vysockogo "krome
mordobitiev - nikakih chudes". Srazu posle 15 aprelja (krajnij
srok vydvizhenija kandidatov v prezidenty) "sdat'" Chernomyrdina
i organizovat' seriju arestov i processov nad ljud'mi, "rjadom s
kotorymi Il'jushenko pokazhetsja melkoj soshkoj" - dal'she etogo
nauchnaja mysl' kak-to ne prodvinulas'.
Kiselev s neprikrytym zloradstvom otmetil, chto "demokraty vo
glave s Gajdarom pospeshili otmezhevat'sja ot El'cina", posle
chego v efir poshel sjuzhet o S-Peterburgskoj konferencii DVR. Tam
vystupili Gajdar i Chubajs, prichem zajavlenie Gajdara o
"vozmozhnosti, pri nekotoryh uslovijah, podderzhat' Prezidenta"
vyzvalo sil'nejshij shum v zale. K mikrofonu vyshel Chubajs i
nachal rasskazyvat', kakie Bol'shie Den'gi obraschalis' k nemu s
pros'boj vozglavit' shtab kampanii "Millionery za El'cina". Ego
perebil kakoj-to "demokrat" slovami: "Vy luchshe skazhite, g-n
Chubajs, verno li, chto Vy uzhe prinjali predlozhenie El'cina i
rabotaete v ego predvybornom shtabe?" Chubajs otvetil uklonchivo.
Javlinskij, tozhe nahodjaschijsja sejchas v SPB, prokommentiroval eto
tak: "El'cin raskolol i pochti unichtozhil demokraticheskoe
dvizhenie, osedlav ego v lichnyh celjah. Kak mozhno ne ponimat',
chto ljuboj kontakt s nim - eto doroga k politicheskoj smerti?"
3. Snova fel'dfebel'.
V oktjabre 1993 goda Kulikov - togda 1-j zam. ministra VD -
byl Komendantom rajona chrezvychajnogo polozhenija "Moskva". Emu
prinadlezhit koronnaja fraza, skazannaja v teleinterv'ju:
"Ja ne hochu, chtoby menja prinjali za _antisemita_, no vse zhe
skazhu prjamo: lica kavkazskoj nacional'nosti v Moskve sovsem
raspojasalis'".
S teh por uteklo mnogo vody, smeshannoj s krov'ju. Kulikov davno
ministr i marshal. Chislennost' podchinennyh emu _vojsk_ (ne
schitaja milicii) v proshlom godu prevysila kontingent,
podchinjajuschijsja marshalu P.Mersedesovu. Nakonec, on zanjalsja
prakticheskoj ekonomikoj i vnosit v nee vklad, opredeljaemyj
temoj ego dissertacii (sm. vyshe). A "demokraty" vse gadajut,
kuda povernet potok istorii. Hotja im vse bylo skazano esche v
1993 godu. Nado tol'ko bylo ne lenit'sja slushat'...
4. I vse drugie...
V toj zhe peredache "Itogov" rezul'taty obrabotki oprosa 1700
respondentov (predstavitel'naja vserossijskaja vyborka,
dispersija 4 procenta). Vopros: za kogo Vy budete golosovat' v
1 ture (otkrytyj spisok)? Nachalo spiska: Zjuganov 18, Javlinskij
11, Zhirinovskij 9, El'cin 7, Lebed' 6, Chernomyrdin 5,
Solzhenicyn, Gajdar, S.Fedorov, Ruckoj - po 3. "Poka ne znaju"
17, "ne budu" - 5 (!)
Iz etogo spiska vyrisovyvaetsja interesnaja vozmozhnost':
agitatory za El'cina imejut real'nye shansy ustroit' vtoroj tur
iz Z. i Zh.!
Na etom fone - ser'eznye boi v sele Novogroznenskom. Oni uzhe
priveli v sryvu obmena plennymi (novosibirskih OMONovcev na
raduevcev), namechennogo na blizhajshie dni. Stoit zametit, chto
obmen stal vozmozhen blagodarja besprecedentnomu shagu Dumy.
Plata snjala prepjatstvie k uchastiju v obmene 7 boevikov, protiv
kotoryh vozbuzhdeny ugolovnye dela, amnistirovav ih (amnistija -
prakticheski edinstvennaja procedura, ostavlennaja Dume
konstituciej). Verojatno, eto vmeshatel'stvo Dumy v "nastojaschuju
politiku" i vyzvalo revnost' teh, kto schitaet ee svoej
prerogativoj.
Alik
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Dear Networkers,
I am looking for e-mail address (or other coordinates) of
Mazin Vladimir who graduated from 444 school in Moscow in 1983
and emigrated to USA (Baltimor, Mariland) ~in 1989.
Thanks for help.
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Dear folks,
The friend of our family, nice jewish fellow, 58, MD, the head of
the department at Lugansk Medical School, Ukrain came to Boston
for postdoc. 3 month research at Harvard Medical School. He is
looking for a room near Longwood medical area, especially in Boston,
Brigthon, Allston, Brookline or Cambridge from now untill May 31.
If you by any chance are interested to rent a room, please send
me a message. Thanks!
-- mike
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>From the coordinator:
Folks, the time has come for the interested parties to organize
a small mailing list "info-diploma". I would support that list
with announcments, by putting it on my info-russ-home page, etc.
But I strongly urge all the diploma-concerned people to do it.
This is well defined, narrow issue, perfect candidate for a
subject-oriented mailing list, not a general list, like info-russ.
I expect that somebody soon will send me a msg with "I-will-do-it!".
--Best,
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This an original msg from Leonid Rokhinson
leonid@felix.physics.sunysb.edu:
Hello to all netters,
I need an advice that someone definately (I hope) can provide me. My
wife need to evaluate her diplom from Technical State University,
Leningrad (former Politechnical Institute) to be an equivalent of
a Master degree. If one takes into account the number of hours studied plus
5.5 years of study plus a diplom defence, its definately much more then a
Batchelor degree here (I have had a chance to teach these guys physics here,
they are not our graduates at all). To make the story short, the World
Education Services, New York, evaluated the diploma to be an equivalent of a
Batchelor degree. Is there any way aroud?
--Leonid.
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Chto proishodit v Novogroznenskom?
20/02/1995
Hi folks!
Chetvertyj den' podrjad soobschenija sluzhb novostej nachinajutsja so
slov "prodolzhaetsja operacija federal'nyh vojsk po likvidacii
krupnoj dudaevskoj gruppirovki v sele Novogroznenskom". S
federal'noj storony zadejstvovano neskol'ko tysjach soldat,
tanki, aviacija, artillerija i "Grad". Eto vse, chto izvestno
dostoverno.
Dal'she nachinajutsja zagadki. Vo vseh soobschenijah rossijskih SMI
selo nazyvaetsja (vidimo so slov voennyh) "stavkoj A.Mashadova"
- pri ochevidnoj neleposti razmeschenija stavki nachal'nika
chechenskogo shtaba v ravninnom sele, prakticheski u samoj trassy
Rostov-Baku. Po vsej vidimosti, imeetsja v vidu, chto mnogie
vidnye komandiry pobyvali v sele, kogda ono ispol'zovalos' dlja
procedury osvobozhdenija raduevskih zalozhnikov. Prakticheski vse
ostal'nye vyskazyvanija oficial'nyh lic vstupajut v protivorechie
so skudnym naborom faktov iz nezavisimyh istochnikov.
1. "V sele _blokirovany_ mnogie sotni boevikov". Tut zhe
soobschaetsja, chto tol'ko vchera k nim pribylo novoe podkreplenie v
neskol'ko soten. Segodnja govoritsja o tysjache boevikov.
Po soobschenijam iz okrestnyh sel, v sele bylo okolo sta boevikov,
i vse oni, ne vstupaja v boj, ushli v noch' na vtornik po
fizicheski trudnoj 40-kilometrovoj trope, sovershenno ne
kontroliruemoj federalami.
2. "Vse mestnye zhiteli byli vypuscheny iz sela po bezopasnomu
koridoru, i v nastojaschee vremja v sele ostalis' tol'ko boeviki".
Naprotiv, utverzhdaetsja, chto lish' ochen' malaja chast' zhitelej
smogla pokinut' selo. Dorogi jarostno obstrelivajutsja, i 6-km
uchastok do sosednego sela usejan podbitymi aviaciej legkovymi
avtomobiljami so sgorevshimi trupami vnutri. V nastojaschee vremja
takie soobschenija nachali postupat' ot mnogih rossijskih
korrespondentov.
3. "Idut ozhestochennye boi, poteri boevikov ubitymi 120 (drugie
istochniki - 170), federal'nyh vojsk 30".
Dostatochno skazat', chto eti cifry nepravdopodobny, esli prinjat'
oficial'nuju kartinu boja. S drugoj storony, esli verna kartina,
risuemaja nezavisimymi istochnikami, to eti cifry mogut byt'
blizki k istine - esli 120-170 - eto cifra poter' mirnogo
naselenija ot obstrelov.
Sopostavlenie s Pervomajskoj vyzyvaet prakticheski u vseh
nabljudatelej oschuschenie polnoj lzhivosti oficial'noj versii.
Esli zhe stat' na vtoruju versiju - nejasno, idet li rech' ob oshibke
razvedki (v Novogroznenskom zadejstvovany obychnye chasti armii,
a ne elitnye vojska, kak v Pervomajskoj) - i togda svedenija ob
uhode boevikov _mogut_ ostanovit' okonchatel'noe unichtozhenie
sela i ego zhitelej, ili nikakoj oshibki net, a rech' idet o
soznatel'nom stiranii s lica zemli slishkom zasvetivshegosja na
ekranah TV mesta projavlenija chechenskoj _politicheskoj_
aktivnosti.
Eto tem bolee interesno, chto pered samoj tragediej v selo
priezzhal marionetochnyj "glava respubliki" Doku Zavgaev (kotoryj
obychno ne ezdit dazhe po Groznomu, a derzhit svoju stavku v
aeroportu) i s bol'shoj pompoj podpisal s polevymi komandirami i
grazhdanskimi liderami "dogovor ob umirotvorenii". Eto
podavalos' pravitel'stvom kak bol'shoj uspeh "chechenizacii"
konflikta. Budem ozhidat' novyh svedenij ob etoj zagadochnoj
istorii...
Chto budet v marte?
Kak izvestno, odno iz "gvozdevyh" obeschanij El'cina - k martu
vyplatit' vse zadolzhennosti po zarplate. Ostavalos' nejasnym,
kak eto budet delat'sja. Nedavno predsedatel' dumskogo Komiteta
po bjudzhetu raskryl tehniku etogo dela.
Vsja hitrost' v tom, chto dejstvujuschee finansovoe zakonodatel'stvo
predpisyvaet: v sluchae nedobora DOHODNOJ chasti bjudzheta
finansirovat' rashodnye stat'i PROPORCIONAL'NO, na stol'ko
procentov, skol'ko polucheno dohodov ot planovoj cifry. Tak vot,
po prikazu E. Chernomyrdin izdal rasporjazhenie - ustanovit' novyj
porjadok oplaty rashodov na pervoe polugodie i osobenno vtoroj
kvartal: ne ravnye srezanija, a ochered' - te rashodnye stat'i,
kotorye stojat v nachale, poluchajut finansirovanie 100%, zatem
sledujuschie - v razmere ostatka, poslednie - nichego. V hvoste
ocheredi - gosudarstvennoe finansirovanie prominvesticij,
kotoryh prosto ne budet. Golova vygljadit tak:
- vyplaty voennosluzhaschim
- vyplaty rabotnikam MVD
- vyplaty ostal'nym gossluzhaschim (ministerstva, vedomstva,
federal'nye organy upravlenija)
- federal'nye transferty.
Pojasnim poslednij punkt. Rech' idet o perechislenijah federal'nyh
nalogov v mestnye bjudzhety dlja soderzhanija gosstruktur i organov,
nahodjaschihsja na balanse regional'nyh organov. Eto VSE VRAChI,
UChITELJa, bol'shaja chast' melkih chinovnikov...
Zadolzhennost' poluchateljam gosudarstvennyh zarplat po etoj grafe
V PJaT' RAZ VYShE (15 trln. rub. k 3), chem po pervym trem. Mezhdu
tem ochevidno, chto prinjatoe bjudzhetnoe reshenie, skoree vsego, ne
uluchshit, a OSLOZhNIT vyplatu zarplat etoj (massovoj) kategorii
gossluzhaschih. Konechno, ispol'zovat' ogranichennye sredstva dlja
togo, chtoby osobenno sytno podkormit' ohranu - ne tak uzh glupo,
no ved' vrode ozhidaetsja ne komanda "k orudijam!", a "k urnam!"
Ne ponimaju...
Vash Alik
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>From Reuter:
Thursday February 22 2:05 PM EST
World Press: Buchanan Reactionary No-Hoper
LONDON (Reuter) - Israel's press savaged Republican maverick Pat
Buchanan as an anti-Semite Thursday, while virulent Russian
nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky said the two could cooperate in
deporting Jews and Asian trading partners worried that Buchanan's
protectionism could influence U.S. policy.
``Patrick Buchanan is a 'respectable' American anti-Semite in the
classic mold,'' the English-language daily Jerusalem Post wrote
in an editorial.
Israel's biggest paper Yedioth Ahronoth, commenting on Buchanan's
victory in the New Hampshire primaries Tuesday, wrote: ``Will a
man who hates Jews and blacks represent the Republican party in
the race for the White House?''
The Maariv tabloid reprinted a caricature from the Los Angeles
Times newspaper depicting Buchanan as Adolf Hitler, holding a
comb to his upper lip for a mustache.
This victory will give the isolationists, the
arch-conservatives, the racists and the anti-Semites a boost in
their effort to elect a presidential candidate from the extreme
right,'' Maariv said in an editorial.
``If Buchanan will be the Republican candidate for president, the
migration of Jews from the Democratic camp to the Republican camp
will grind to a halt. No sane Jew in the U.S. will vote for
Buchanan,'' it said.
Zhirinovsky hailed Buchanan's victory and told him they could
cooperate to deport U.S and Russian Jews, the Interfax news
agency said.
Zhirinovsky, whose party is the third biggest in Russia's
parliament and who is running in June's Russian presidential
election, called Buchanan a ``brother in arms'' and wished him a
``convincing victory'' in November's U.S. presidential ballot.
Interfax, quoting Zhirinovsky's press office, said he had written
to Buchanan, saying: ``You say that Congress is 'Israeli-occupied
territory.' We have the same situation in Russia. So, to survive,
we could set aside places on U.S. and Russian territory to deport
this small but troublesome tribe.''
The conservative Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung said in a profile
of Buchanan that ``the American presidential campaign now has its
own Zhirinovsky.''
The Russian nationalist caused a storm in Germany when he first
won strong support in Russian elections in 1993.
The newspaper said President Clinton saw Buchanan as a ``dream
opponent'' and that the White House would be delighted at the
prospect of campaigning against him instead of rivals Robert Dole
or Lamar Alexander.
Bonn's General-Anzeiger daily ran a commentary about Buchanan
under the English headline ``Mussolini made in USA.''
``Buchanan speaks like an American Mussolini,'' the newspaper
said. ``He believes he is on a crusade (and) unleashes dangerous
forces.''
London's liberal Guardian referred to the candidate's
``quack-doctor cures'' and said Buchanan spoke principally to the
lower-income and less educated voters. ``His chauvinist,
reactionary and bigoted message is profoundly disturbing.''
In Spain the daily El Pais said: ``Buchanan, with his extreme
message, looks less like a winning horse than a guarantee to
scare voters away,'' noting that Buchanan was brought up to
admire Spanish dictator Francisco Franco.
``His declarations are always tinged with machismo, homophobia,
racism and anti-semitism,'' El Pais continued.
``It is a sensationalist message, but it is very doubtful that,
at the moment of truth, a majority of North Americans will decide
to send someone who talks and thinks like that to the White
House.''
The Dutch daily De Volkskrant, in a comment echoed by other
European newspapers, said the real damage Buchanan could do would
be not to America but to his own party.
In Ireland, newspapers said there was little chance Buchanan
would end up in the White House.
``It hardly seems credible that (his) negative message will carry
Buchanan to the Republican nomination -- let alone to the White
House,'' the Irish Times said.
But some papers in Europe said his win in New Hampshire showed he
was articulating popular concerns. The London Daily Telegraph
said: ``He will not win the Republican nomination. But he has
started arguments that need to happen in America.
The Financial Times said: ``His success reveals an astonishing
degree of disarray in a party which seemed only a year ago to be
carrying all before it.
``Mr. Buchanan may accurately echo the fears of many middle and
working-class Americans. His isolationist politics and
protectionist economics do not offer any genuine reassurance.''
Italy's La Stampa predicted that Buchanan would sooner or later
revert to being a marginal figure once the duel between the
mainstream Republicans Dole and Alexander had been decided.
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Hello:
My son Alex is looking for somebody of his age and interests to be in
touch with by e-mail. To match the background, he reads and writes
Russian, likes to read books in either language: science fiction preferable;
he likes hiking, rafting, tennis, karate. Alex came from Riga, Latvia in
1992.
His father, Michael Breslav
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Dear IR-netters:
I am looking for any e_mail in Voronezh University
or Institute of Math. Thank you.
Sergey (sergey@spatial.unisys.com)
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From: AmerSambo@gnn.com (Scott Sonnon)
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Dear INFO-RUSS Subscribers,
I am seeking any individuals informed or involved with Russian-style
hand-to-hand combat. Information on all of the Slavic-Mongol
martial traditions is of relevance; especially knowledge concerning
SAMBO (SAMozaschitya Bez Oruzhiya). Knowledge of modern system by
A. A. Kadochikov (Spetznaz martial tradition), Buza, Skobar, Spas,
System ROSS, SAMBO (combat, not sport or wrestling), Family style of
Duck's Galitsins, Isticuffs, Russian Boxing, or any of the 25 styles
of Russian-style grappling is appreciated. Resource leads are
appreciated: literature, videos, or contacts.
My hope is to propogate and perpetuate the rich cultural heritage of
all Russian-style martial traditions, both armed and unarmed.
Spaciba,
Scott B. Sonnon
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From: LLStall@aol.com (David K. Stall, City Manager, Nassau Bay, TX)
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The City of Nassau Bay, Texas will host a Russian Festival April 12 & 13,
1996.
The Russian-American community and public are invited to participate in this
event.
Nassau Bay is sister city to Zvyozdny Gorodok, Russia. Nassau Bay is south
of Houston at NASA's Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center (astronaut training
center) and home to many of America's astronauts and aerospace professionals.
Zvyozdny Gorodok (Star City) is home to the Yuri A. Gagarin Cosmonaut
Training Centre. The two communities have had a formal cultural and
scientific relationship since 1992.
The Festival is focused on the two sister cities and their Russian & Texan
Folk Cultures. The event will be well attended by astronauts, cosmonauts,
and many Russian engineers, trainers, and support personal from Zvyozdny.
Also attending are Russian diplomats, Russian & American businessmen who are
interested in joint venture opportunities, Russian language students, the
greater Russian-American community, and college Russian clubs.
Schedule:
April 12 - Reception at Space Center Houston, 5 p.m. All space exhibits &
theaters will be open (no tram tours); live Russian music; Space art exhibit.
Advance tickets are available from Nassau Bay City Hall ($5) or at the door
($10).
April 13 - Nassau Bay Space Shuttle Hot Air Balloon Launch at Howard L. Ward
Park, 7 a.m.(this shuttle replica is actually larger than the real orbiter);
followed by live Russian and bluegrass folk music & dance; food and other
activities; free admission.
April 13 - Russian art & culture exhibits at Holiday Inn NASA & Days Inn NASA
2 p.m. Live music; art exhibits; Russia & Zvyozdny Gorodok displays; Russian
tea; free admission.
April 13 - Festival Banquet at Nassau Bay Hilton Hotel & Marina at 7 p.m.
Keynote speakers include NASA & local officials; followed by waterfront folk
music and dancing; admission by ticket only (limited numbers available).
Location:
Nassau Bay is located 2.5 miles east of Interstate HIghway 45 on NASA Road
One thirty miles south of downtown Houston. The city is 15 minutes from
Houston Hobby airport.
Accomodations: (official event hotels/motels)
Holiday Inn NASA, 1300 NASA Road One, Nassau Bay, TX - 713.333.2500
Days Inn NASA, 2020 NASA Road One, Nassau Bay, TX - 713.333.0308
Nassau Bay Hilton, 3000 NASA Road One, Nassau Bay, TX - 713.333.9300
For General Information Call: 1-800-844-5253 (Convention & Visitor's Bureau)
For Specific Information contact Debbie Byerly 713.333.4211 (City of Nassau
Bay)
For Russian Language Information contact Leslie Roche 713.333.1563
(Volunteer)
By e-mail, contact David Stall - DKStall@aol.com (City of Nassau Bay)
David K. Stall, City Manager, City of Nassau Bay, Texas 77058
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Folks,
I am forwarding the message below on behalf of its author
who agreed with me that spreading the message via INFO-RUSS
mailing list would be a good idea. Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Vadim Pliner
____________________________________________________________________
Let us create the list of the #30 school!
My name is Boris Kozintsev. I graduated from #30 in 1989 (10-4).
As you have probably seen, there already exist lists of #45 and #239. I
think the time have come to fill in the gap. Today, on the 21 of
January, 1996, I am starting to build the list of the St.Petersburg #30
school graduates.
Please fill in the form to join the list. As soon as I have 20 or more
names, the first version of the list will appear. Please spread the word
among all your friends!
http://caprina.umd.edu/~bkozints/30school.html
or e-mail: bak@math.umd.edu
Join the list of the 30 school!
If your browser does not support forms, just e-mail me the application with
your name, class, year of graduation, and (optionally) profession, address,
phone, e-mail, url, new surname (girls), ... .
My e-mail address is bak@math.umd.edu.
You may also e-mail me uuencoded photograph of yours (gif or jpeg) to be
included into the list.
Please send me your requests for more details about the information
I need from you.
Boris Kozintsev, bak@math.umd.edu
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Dear Netters,
There is a new service on the Web that might be of use to those
who try to get in touch with people they have lost contact with.
It's some kind of nationwide (U.S.) Yellow (White?) Pages on the
Web where you can search people by name and state. It's
http://www.switchboard.com
The service also lets you customize your own entry and protect it
as you do with unlisted phone numbers. So, if you are on the run -
hurry up! Oh, yeah, the service is free and I have nothing to do
with Banyan Corp that provides it. Good luck
-Dmitry Stavisky
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Hello INFO_RUSS subscribers,
I am a former citizen of a former USSR. Lived in the city
of Chernowtzy, Ukraine, came to USA 18 years ago. Through
this mail I hope to find my class and schoolmates
from the school # 3 in Chernowtzy. I graduated from this
school in 1962. My father Ilya Efimovitch Fleyschman was
a very well known and highly respected math teacher in
this school and in the city. He tutored almost every young
person who had good math skills and a desire to continue
education. His students graduated practically from every
prestigious college in the former USSR.
I will be very happy to hear from everyone who knew him
and me and still remembers my father. I also want to thank
INFO-RUSS for giving me this opportunity.
Genny Imas ( former Fleyschman )
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February 25, 1996
Dear friends,
Something terrible happened just three hours ago here in Jerusalem.
At 6.45 a.m. a bus full of the people who were on the way to their jobs
/today is the first working day on the week in Israel/, was explosed by
an arab terrorist quite near to the central bus station /which is in the
most center of Jerusalem/. More than 20 people died and around 70 were
wounded, about 25 are in the terminal situation. Obviously the terrorist
came up to the central door of the bus, because what we are getting from
the radio now - the bus was crushed and separated by the explosion into
two parts, the roof of it and the bodies of the people just flew out from
the bus. Some vehicles which were standing on the traffic lights near the bus
were also damaged. Half an hour after it happened in Jerusalem, another
terrorist act happened in the city of Ashkelon, which is about one hour
drive from Jerusalem to the south-west of the country. Two people died and
more than 20 wounded, 12 of them - terminally. According to Israeli security
service's sources - there is a connection between this two awful acts.
All country just shocked. No words to express our feelings. In the peaceful
time so many jews just found their death from the hands of terrorists.
We still don't know the names of those who died. Almost all hospitals
here in Jerusalem are surviving the lives of the wounded people and trying
to identify the people who died. We don't know whether there were
children in this bus or not, but it was crowed by the people who were in
a hurry to their jobs......
I'll try to provide you with a new information as soon as we can get it.
Sincerely yours,
Ron Schechter
P.S. If anyone wants to respond my e-mail address is :
shechter@www-mail.huji.ac.il
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The war against us is continues.
Another 27 people were killed and 78 wounded.
We still don't know all the names.
Only 16 names of those who were killed
became known at this point:
Arik Gabi, 16 years old,
Perets Nagats, 62,
Yoni Barna, 20,
Gabriel Kraus, 24,
Meirav Nahum, 19,
Moshe Reuven, 19,
Navon Shaavo, 22,
Yitshak Elbaz, 57,
Gadi Shiloni, 22
Boris Sharpolinski, 55
Daniel Biton, 43
Semyon Barikashvili, 59
Arye Barashi, 38
Iliya Nimiotov, 18
Yitshak Yikhnas, 53,
Hofit Ayash, 20...
I live in Jerusalem and remember
some of the sad statistics of bus explosions:
6 Dec 1983, bus #18, 6 killed, 48 wounded,
6 Jul 1989, #405 (Tel-aviv - Jerusalem road) 16 killed, 27 wounded,
1 Jul 1993, #25, 2 killed, 2 wounded,
21 Aug 1995, #26, 6 killed, 107 wounded,
and now
25 Feb 1996, #18, 25 killed, 49 wounded.
Who is the next? Me, you, my son, your girlfriend?
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Michael Bonn,
National Semiconductor Israel
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February 26th, 1996 Jerusalem, ISRAEL 4.50 p.m.
Dear friends,
Just yesterday I wrote to all of you about the tragedy that happened
here, while the bus full of the people was explosed by a terrorist in the
very center of Jerusalem, unlikely, ANOTHER TRAGEDY HAPPENED !!!!!!
About 40 minutes ago a vechile with a terrorist in it smashed to the crowd
of soldiers and civilians, who were waiting to the public transportation
on the bus stop not so far from the campus of the Hebrew University.
We still don't know the details, but for the moment: 2 people died and more
than 20 were wounded. One of the soldiers succeeded to shoot to the
terrorist, who was killed. No further information available for the moment,
all this area is closed now and even many of the students can't reach their
homes because all the roads to the northern parts of the city are blocked by
the security forces.
Regarding the bus explosion, many of you responded with the words of the
deepest consolation and support to all Israelis and I'd like to express my
appreciation for that. The pictures of the explosion which were published
today are just horrible, no words...... Most of the victims were
soldiers, who were returning back from the weekend vacation to their bases.
Almost every hour today the funeral processions and ceremonies are coming
to the two cemetries of Jerusalem. No power to keep silence, no power for
crying while you can see these pictures of peaceful innocent civilians who
found their death in one moment yesterday, most of them were 18-22 years old.
Many of you, who responded asked about the names ex-Russians who have
been in this bus. Not all bodies /actually remains of the bodies/ were
identified yet, but here is the names of the ex-Russian citizen, who died
there and were identified :
1. Boris Scharnopolsky, 55 years old , came to Israel 8 months ago;
2. Semen Barikashvili, 59 years old, came to Israel 3 years ago from Georgia;
3. Ilya Nemyotin, 18 years old, came to Israel 5 years ago from St.Petersburg
with his mother. He was a single child.
Among the victims were two american citizens, all the rest - were Israelis.
The final figures are : 27 people died, 78 wounded, 6 of them are still
fighting for their lives.
An arab terrorist organization 'Hamas' took a responsibility for both
terrorist acts in Jerusalem and Ashkelon. We still don't know who is
responsible for the tragedy, which happened almost an hour ago.
Good-bye and Shalom,
Sincerely yours,
Ron.
P.S. For response : shechter@www-mail.huji.ac.il
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VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS - FEBRUARY 25, 1996
Suicide bombing of bus No. 18 near the Central Bus Station in Jerusalem:
24 killed (15 civilians and 9 soldiers), 51 wounded.
Casualties:
Soldiers:
Sgt. Yonatan Barnea, 20
St-Sgt. Gavriel Krauss, 24
St.-Sgt. Gadi Shiloni, 22
Cpl. Moshe Reuven, 19
St.-Sgt. Maj. (res.) Arye Barashi, 39
Cpl. Iliya Nimotin, 19
Cpl. Merav Nahum, 19
Sgt. Sharon Hanuka, 19
Arik Gaby, 16 (student in pre-army boarding school)
- all of Jerusalem.
Civilians:
Daniel Biton, 42
Yitzhak Elbaz, 57
Boris Sharpolinsky, 64
Simon Trakashvili, 60
Yitzhak Yachnis, 54
Peretz Gantz, 61
Anatoly and Gala Kushnirov, 38 and 37
Massuda Amar, 59
Bitana Resnick, 26
- all of Jerusalem;
Navon Shabo, 22, of Bnei Brak
Michael Yergin, 16, of Kibbutz Maabarot
Matthew Eisenfeld, 25 and Sara Duker, 23, of the United States.
The identity of the last victim has not yet been released.
Suicide bombing outside Ashkelon:
Sgt. Hofit Ayyash, 20, of Ashdod was killed; 37 wounded.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:35:20 +0200
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ATTENTION ISRAEL LINE RECIPIENTS
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 1996
**FUNERALS HELD FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS
**TWO PEOPLE KILLED WHEN CAR PLOUGHS INTO CROWD AT FRENCH HILL BUS STOP
FUNERALS HELD FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS
Three victims of Sunday's bus bombing in Jerusalem -- Corp. Ilya Nimotin,
18; Sgt. Maj. (Res.) Ariyeh Barshi, 38; and First Sgt. Gadi Shiloni, 22 --
were laid to rest today at Mount Herzl Cemetery in Jerusalem, Israel Radio,
KOL YISRAEL, reported.
A total of 25 people were killed and approximately 90 injured in Sunday's
terrorist attacks, which struck a crowded commuter bus in the center of
Jerusalem and a group of soldiers at the Ashkelon junction.
Forty of the individuals wounded in the attacks remain hospitalized, 16 of
them are listed in serious condition.
The explosion claimed the lives of two American students -- 25-year old
Matthew Eisenfeld of Connecticut and 23-year old Sara Duker of New Jersey --
who were studying in Israel for the year.
The funerals of Sgt. Yonatan Barnea, 20, Sgt. Sharon Hanukkah, 19, and
Sgt. Hofit Ayash, 20, who was killed at a hitch-hiking station in Ashkelon,
will be held later in the day.
Civilians who were killed in Sunday's terrorist attack include Yitzhak
Yachinis, 54; Yitzhak Elbaz, 57; Daniel Biton, 42; Simon Tarakshvilli, 60;
Boris Shraplinski, 64; Navon Shabo, 22; Svetlana Grisnick, 26; Masouda Amar,
59; Anatoly Koshnirov, 36; Geula Koshnirov, 37; and Arik Gabi, 16.
The names of the remaining victims have not yet been released.
KOL YISRAEL reported that the Knesset opened today with a special
statement by Prime Minister Shimon Peres regarding the attacks. Likud
Chairman MK Benjamin Netanyahu announced that he will instruct Likud MK's to
abstain from making remarks interrupting the Prime Minister's address.
TWO PEOPLE KILLED WHEN CAR PLOUGHS INTO CROWD AT FRENCH HILL BUS STOP
Two people were killed and 23 sustained light to moderate injuries this
afternoon when a car driven by an Arab-American ploughed into a crowd of
people at a bus stop in Jerusalem's French Hill neighborhood, Israel Radio,
KOL YISRAEL, reported.
Bystanders believed the incident to be a terrorist attack and opened fire
on the driver. The driver died from the gunshot wounds.
Police are still investigating the occurrence and are examining the
possibility that the driver lost control of his car. In addition, police
are checking to see whether the second victim was killed by gunfire.
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Accoding to "Yediot Ahronot" paper from 27 Feb 1996.
(You may also try "Jerusalem Post" on internet:
http://www.jpost.co.il/news.html )
8 new immigrants from x-USSR and 1 from France were killed on Sunday.
Vladik Kushnirov (9 years old) and his 5 months old brother left orphaned
by bombing.
Anatolii (37) and Zhana (36) Kushnirov, immigrated from Ukraina in Apr 94.
Boris Sharnopolsky (55), came alone in May 95.
Yitshak Yakhnis (54), Jun 91, left wife and doughter.
Semen Barikashvili (60) came from Georgia in Aug 92, left wife and son.
Svetlana Zheleznyak (32), came from Russia in Jun 91, left husbend and two sons.
Iliya Nemyotin (19), came in Oct 90 from Leningrad.
Michael Yarygin (16), Sep 95 from Ukraina, sister in Israel, mother in Ukraina.
Salin Zaguri (19), came from France Month and a half ago.
Our harts here go for their families.
Michael Bonn
National Semiconductor Israel
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Dear netter,
Atmospheric and Environmental Research, Inc.
(located in Cambridge [Boston, in fact], MA)
has four positions available immediately:
* Research Associate/Scientific Programmer in
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* Software professional for Remote Sensing Group;
* System Engineer for System Engineering Group;
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Interested persons could find neccesary information at:
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Hello to everyone,
We are going to buy a computer "MicroWay Screamer 266 MHz system",
based on 21164 Alpha processor (this is an analog of DEC Alpha 600 5/266
WorkStation; according to the information given by MicroWay, their
computer has a better price/performance rate).
Could you say any "pro" or "contra" this machine and this firm?
Please, reply to breva@scripps.edu
Thanks,
Boris
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Hello netters -
I'm just wondering if anyone can give me any advice about graduate
school. I plan on focusing (hopefully) on Russian
philosophy/history/sociology (in order of preference) Anyhow, I've heard
mixed stories about Michigan State University's graduate program and
thus, would like to get more opinions about it. What would a masters
and doctorate degree in their Russian Studies program be worth?
If it is as little as I have heard it to be, can anyone suggest
some schools? Or, if it is as much as I have heard, please
confirm it. This help would be greatly appreciated.
-Snyder
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Dear netters:
Thanks to INFO-RUSS, I learned about Izvestia On-line and used this highly
enjoyable FREE service on a daily basis. Now, however, the free service is
gone, and rightfully so. I have no problem with paying $6/month for this,
it costs more. The only problem I see is making my credit card available to
Russica On-Line, the Moscow-based service provider for Izvestia. Hope they
are decent folks, but has anybody already had a real experience dealing
with these people? Also, does the credit card consumer protection work in
the case of an international transaction?
Thanks,
Yevgeniy Kalmens
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Hello,
Could I ask for you help? I trying to find information on handheld
calculators made during the 70's and 80's in Eastern Bloc countries
(not imported). That includes the Elektronika BK 6, MK 61 and MK 81.
I am interested in any kind of information, such as general
information (remembrances), specific information (production dates and
runs) and hardcopy information (manuals, sales literature) or
photocopies. I would even be interested in obtaining one of these
calculators; I am only a student so I am unable to pay any more than
shipping and handling. Or even just sending a photograph of one would
be fine.
Do you have one of these sitting somewhere on an old shelf, unused in
decades and looking for a good home? Or did you use one or even
contribute to their construction?
My name is Kenton Green, email address is: kgre@lle.rochester.edu,
Thank you very much for your help!
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Hello droogi on the Info-Russ network,
My name is Elizabeth Hood (Liza) I am a Russian major at Georgetown
University and an English minor. Last spring I studied at St. Peterburg
University. I will be graduated in May and I am interested if anyone out
there knows of any contacts, job leads, etc. in the Russian field,
specifically in the DC/ Virginia/Maryland area.
My specialty is literature and I have had vast experience in editing,
writing, and proofreading as a tutor at the GU Writing Center. I have also
spent significant time teaching foreign students writing and conversation.
Thus, teaching and writing are the fields in which i have the most
experience. Since i will be graduated soon I am searching fervently right
now. If anyone could be of any help whatsoever i would be very grateful.
All the best,
Liza Hood.
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March 3d, 1996 10.00 a.m. Jerusalem ISRAEL
My dear friends all over the world !
I can't believe that I am writing to all of you again about the same awful
thing : 3.5 HOURS AGO ANOTHER BUS WAS EXPLOSED IN THE HEART OF JERUSALEM !!!
At 6.24 a.m. today, on March, 3d in the most center of Jerusalem, some
hundred meters from the City Hall and a few meters from the Ministry of
Interior of Israel the BUS # 18 /the same number like exactly one week ago/
WAS EXPLOSED on Jaffa Street !!!!!!!!!!!
It is the same picture like one week ago : the bus was crushed, no roof,
no chairs, nothing remained. The people were on the way to their jobs .....
The people who were on the street and saw the explosion thought that
maybe only 2-3 people died. The reality was different : the bomb was
SO POWERFUL that the people who were in the bus were totally BURSTED
for little pieces, nothing remained........!!!!!!!!!
Situation for the moment : 18 PEOPLE PERISHED, 7 WOUNDED, 3 of them
in terminal position.
We still do not know the name of new victims of this terrorist attack.
All the center of Jerusalem is closed even now, 3 hours later after the
bombing. The security sources suppose the probability of another bombing.
I'll try to keep you informed as soon as we'll get new details,
SHALOM FROM JERUSALEM ,
Yours, Ron Schechter.
P.S. For response : shechter@www-mail.huji.ac.il
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Geotechnical Instrumentation technician position is available at GeoTek,
Sudbury, Mass (US, Boston area): temporary, part-time work during the
night shifts. The work consists of istallation of geotechnical
instrumentation inside the "T" tunnel (Red line, Broadway station,
Boston). Ability to work with heavy hand tools is required, fluent
English is a must.
Call GeoTek (508) 443-4140 Julia Sigalovsky
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10:32
Segodnya v 16.00 proizoshel noviy vzriv v centre Tel Aviva.
(plochad Dizengof).
Terrorist-samoybiytcha + 10 kg vzrivchatki vozle
ocheredi k bankovskomy avtomaty.
Boleeye 10 ybitix i 60 ranenix. Vchera pravitelstvom
bila ob'yavlena voyna organizatchhii Hamas,
obichno berychey otvetstvennost za vzrivi.
Segodnyashneye geograficheskoye i politicheskoye
sostoyaniye ne pozvolyayet predprinyat nikakix
sychestvennix mer dlya vedeniya etoy voyni ne na slovax
bez nachala krypnomashtabnix policheyskix operachiy na territorii
Palestinskoy avtonomii, narushayuchix kak prava cheloveka
/visilka i kollektivniye nakazaniya/
i vizivavshix v proshlom sanktchii OON vplot do popitok
vvedeniya embargo , tak i mezhdynarodnoye pravo.
Roman Kris
10:55
Chislo ranenix previsilo chifry 70. Soobcheno oficialno o 8 ybitix.
Vse chifri ytochnyayutsya. Israilskiye specialisti po borbe s terrorom
obsyzhdayut sleduyuchiye meri:
a) vvedeniye chrezvichaynogo polzheniya v strane,
b) razmecheniye voysk vblizi sektora Gaza i otdelnix
rayonov Iudei i Samarii.
Vecherom sostoitsya cpecialnoye zasedaniye pravitelstva.
Telefoni sotovoy svyazi vishli iz stroya iz-za peregruzok vizvannix chislom
zvonkov.
Roman Kris
14:54
Posledniye chifri /oficialnoye soobcheniye/ 11 ybitix i 101 raneniy.
Terrorist , po poslednim neproverennim soobcheniyam,
zhitel Ramalli - goroda,
peredannogo pod kontrol Arafata neskjolko mesyatchev nazad.
Podrobnosti vzriva: Terrorist vzorval 15 kg vzrivchatki vblizi
peshexodnogo perexoda v chentre plochadi,
kogda na zeleniy chvet poshli passazhiri
i mashini postanovilis vblizi perexoda.
Stekla vibiti vo vsex zdaniyax na
plochadi na neskolkix etazhax.
Bivshiy nachalnik Shabaka /specialist i avtor pechatnix
trydov /Ph.D./ po borbe s yevreyskimi terroristami,
yvolenniy ne bez soprotivleniya v otstavky posle ybiystva Rabina/,
predostereg ot vvoda armii Israilya na territorii avtonomii
kak mogychiy poslyzhit nachaly novoy intifadi.
Pered zdaniyem ministerstva bezopasnosti v Tel Avive
proxodit demonsrachiya protesta, vo vremya kotoroy
10 chelovek raneni pri stolknoveniyax s polichiyey.
Roman Kris
13:55
Tolko chto peredano soobcheniye o yeche odnoy
pogibshey ot ran. Chislo ybitix ravno 12.
Extrennoye zasedaniye pravitelstvo predostavilo polnuyu svobody
sisteme bezopasnosti v borbe s terrorom.
Demonstrachii v Tel Avive vixodyat iz pod kontrolya polichii i
perexodyat v ylichniye besporyadki.
Roman Kris
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10:32
Segodnya v 16.00 proizoshel noviy vzriv v centre Tel Aviva.
(plochad Dizengof).
Terrorist-samoybiytcha + 10 kg vzrivchatki vozle
ocheredi k bankovskomy avtomaty.
Boleeye 10 ybitix i 60 ranenix. Vchera pravitelstvom
bila ob'yavlena voyna organizatchhii Hamas,
obichno berychey otvetstvennost za vzrivi.
Segodnyashneye geograficheskoye i politicheskoye
sostoyaniye ne pozvolyayet predprinyat nikakix
sychestvennix mer dlya vedeniya etoy voyni ne na slovax
bez nachala krypnomashtabnix policheyskix operachiy na territorii
Palestinskoy avtonomii, narushayuchix kak prava cheloveka
/visilka i kollektivniye nakazaniya/
i vizivavshix v proshlom sanktchii OON vplot do popitok
vvedeniya embargo , tak i mezhdynarodnoye pravo.
Roman Kris
10:55
Chislo ranenix previsilo chifry 70. Soobcheno oficialno o 8 ybitix.
Vse chifri ytochnyayutsya. Israilskiye specialisti po borbe s terrorom
obsyzhdayut sleduyuchiye meri:
a) vvedeniye chrezvichaynogo polzheniya v strane,
b) razmecheniye voysk vblizi sektora Gaza i otdelnix
rayonov Iudei i Samarii.
Vecherom sostoitsya cpecialnoye zasedaniye pravitelstva.
Telefoni sotovoy svyazi vishli iz stroya iz-za peregruzok vizvannix chislom
zvonkov.
Roman Kris
14:54
Posledniye chifri /oficialnoye soobcheniye/ 11 ybitix i 101 raneniy.
Terrorist , po poslednim neproverennim soobcheniyam,
zhitel Ramalli - goroda,
peredannogo pod kontrol Arafata neskjolko mesyatchev nazad.
Podrobnosti vzriva: Terrorist vzorval 15 kg vzrivchatki vblizi
peshexodnogo perexoda v chentre plochadi,
kogda na zeleniy chvet poshli passazhiri
i mashini postanovilis vblizi perexoda.
Stekla vibiti vo vsex zdaniyax na
plochadi na neskolkix etazhax.
Bivshiy nachalnik Shabaka /specialist i avtor pechatnix
trydov /Ph.D./ po borbe s yevreyskimi terroristami,
yvolenniy ne bez soprotivleniya v otstavky posle ybiystva Rabina/,
predostereg ot vvoda armii Israilya na territorii avtonomii
kak mogychiy poslyzhit nachaly novoy intifadi.
Pered zdaniyem ministerstva bezopasnosti v Tel Avive
proxodit demonsrachiya protesta, vo vremya kotoroy
10 chelovek raneni pri stolknoveniyax s polichiyey.
Roman Kris
13:55
Tolko chto peredano soobcheniye o yeche odnoy
pogibshey ot ran. Chislo ybitix ravno 12.
Extrennoye zasedaniye pravitelstvo predostavilo polnuyu svobody
sisteme bezopasnosti v borbe s terrorom.
Demonstrachii v Tel Avive vixodyat iz pod kontrolya polichii i
perexodyat v ylichniye besporyadki.
Roman Kris
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Razgrom Sernovodska - novyj krovavyj rekord
04/03/1996
Poselok Sernovodsk na granice s Ingushetiej, u odnoimennoj stancii
na zheleznoj doroge Beslan-Groznyj, do vojny naschityval 8 tysjach
zhitelej. Ego naselenie udvoilos' za schet bezhencev iz Groznogo i
drugix mest. V chastnosti, krupnejshim lagerem bezhencev (v tom chisle
osobenno russkojazychnyx) stal Sernovodskij sanatorij.
V poselke ne bylo boev v 1994 godu, vo vremja grachevskogo "marsha na
Groznyj". Odnako osen'ju 1995 poselok byl dovol'no plotno
zablokirovan federalami, i neskol'ko mesjacev so dnja na den' zhdali
shturma. I vot on nachalsja. Opjat' - tysjachi soldat, kanonada orudij,
nalety aviacii. V rajon ne propuskajutsja ni zhurnalisty, ni
predstaviteli gumanitarnyx missij. Tol'ko segodnja udalos'
probrat'sja tuda otrjadu MChS (ministerstvo chrezvychajnyx situacij) iz
Ingushetii. S sosednix gor vidny pylajuschie doma, v tom chisle
razrushennye aviaciej korpusa Sernovodskogo sanatorija. Do poludnja
otrjadu udalos' vyvezti bol'shoe kolichestvo bezhencev, odnako pochti
nikogo ne udalos' spasti iz zavalov. Pod ruinami pjatietazhnyx
korpusov sanatorija, po nekotorym svedenijam, pogrebeno 300 chelovek.
V 12:30 vozobnovilis' nalety aviacii na selo, osobenno opjat'-taki
na rajon sanatorija. Vlasti oficial'no zapretili vyxod bezhencev.
Okrestnosti poselka za neskol'ko mesjacev osady sil'no
zaminirovany, chto prepjatstvuet popytkam samostojatel'nogo vyxoda.
Na glazax sotrudnikov MChS i telezhurnalistov tri zhenschiny
podorvalis' na mine, otojdja ot avtobusa na neskol'ko shagov.
Razumeetsja, vlasti vystupajut s obychnymi uzhe odnoobraznymi
zajavlenijami, kotorym nikto bol'she ne verit: o dudaevskix bazax, o
"gumanitarnom koridore" dlja vyxoda mirnyx zhitelej. Slishkom
ochevidno, chto federaly pereshli k novoj taktike - razrushenija
naselennyx punktov, zhiteli kotoryx otkazyvajutsja ot aktov
lojal'nosti groznenskomu pravitel'stvu Zavgaeva. Mezhdu tem
kolichestvo zhertv operacii v Sernovodske mozhet dostignut', sudja po
soobschenijam bezhencev, neskol'kix soten - i eto pri tom, chto samaja
zhestokaja faza - "zachistka" podvalov i ruin - esche ne nachalas'.
Napomnim, chto shturm i "zachistka" Samashek oboshlas' v 95 ubityx
mirnyx zhitelej.
Programma realizuetsja povsemestno v Chechne i pogranichnyx selax
Ingushetii - Novogroznenskoe, Centoroj, Bamut, Arshty i teper'
Sernovodsk. I vse eto za dve nedeli. Trudno somnevat'sja, chto eto
sledstvie prikaza, a sovpadenie nachala kampanii s vstupleniem
El'cina v predvybornuju bor'bu ne ostavljaet somnenij i v tom,
_chej_ eto prikaz.
S drugoj storony, pochti s samogo nachala kampanii generaly i
starshie oficery iz chisla "afgancev" utverzhdali, chto neuspex armii
svjazan s tem, chto im ne dali primenit' "afganskij scenarij" po
polnoj programme - s neogranichennym terrorom. Kak oni otmechajut, v
Afganistane sootnoshenie poter' armija : modzhaxedy : naselenie
sostavljalo primerno 1 : 5 : 100. V Chechne poluchitsja 1 : (0.5-1.5) :
10. S drugoj storony, protivniki vojny iz etoj sredy (takie, kak
Agapov i Aushev) otmechali, chto ispol'zovanie takoj taktiki v
(oficial'no) _sobstvennoj_ strane bylo by slishkom dazhe dlja
beskonechno terpimogo mirovogo i rossijskogo obschestvennogo mnenija.
Vozmozhno, eti generaly - izlishnie optimisty; blizhajshee buduschee
pokazhet, tak li eto.
Tem vremenem ranenyx, dostavlennyx v bol'nicu stanicy Slepcovskoj,
speshno otpravljajut dal'she - v Nazran' i Malgobek, chtoby derzhat'
kojki nagotove. Malen'kaja respublika, na 50% sostojaschaja iz
bezhencev, gotovitsja k novomu potoku ranenyx, izuvechennyx i
poterjavshix vse ljudej.
Vash Alik
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Dear IR-readers,
I am posting this on behalf of Dr. Anatoli Kouchnirenko,
a long-time organizer of extracurricular math education in
Moscow. The project he is running now can be thought of an
attempt to replicate the math-school athmosphere on American
soil. The organizers are frantically looking for smart kids
who are interested in math but cannot get what they want at
their schools. Please direct any questions or comments to
agk@math.psu.edu or look up forther info on WWW (see below).
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MATHEMATICS ADVANCED STUDY SEMESTERS
Department of Mathematics of the Pennsylvania State University
announces a yearly semester-long intensive program for
undergraduate students seriously interested in pursuing a career
in mathematical sciences. The Mathematics Advanced Study Semesters
(MASS) program will start in the Fall semester of 1996.
The principal part of the program will consist of three core courses
chosen from major areas in Algebra/Number Theory , Analysis, and
Geometry/Topology respectively, specially designed and offered
exclusively to MASS participants, and a weekly working seminar.
Additional features will include a periodic listing of challenging
problems from various fields of mathematics, colloquium-type lectures
by visiting and resident mathematicians and mathematical projects
involving creative use of computers.
The following courses will be offered in the fall of 1996
(the titles are tentative):
1. Explorations in Number Theory
Instructor: Professor George Andrews (Ph.D.'64, Univ of Pennsylvania)
2. Dynamics for Beginners
Instructor: Professor Anatole Katok (Ph.D.'68, Moscow State University)
3. Linear Algebra and Geometries
Instructor: Associate Professor Victor Nistor ( Ph.D.'92, Berkeley).
The seminar will be run by the Director of MASS program Dr.
A.G. Kouchnirenko (Ph.D.'70, Moscow State University) who will also be
responsible for coordinating the problem and computer-related activities.
The expected size of the program is 25-30 students. This will create
a highly charged ``critical mass'' of mathematics enthusiasts, and will
guarantee intensive interaction among the participants. A high level of
interaction with the course instructors, the seminar leader and teaching
assistants including a fair amount of individual tutoring will be provided.
ENROLLMENT
The participants will be selected from applicants currently enrolled
into US colleges or universities who will be juniors or seniors in the
1996-97 academic year. Students who will be sophomores may be admitted
in exceptional cases. All participants are expected to have demonstrated
a sustained interest in mathematics and a high level of mathematical
ability and to have mastered basic techniques of mathematical proof.
The expected background includes a full calculus sequence, basic linear
and abstract algebra, and advanced calculus or basic real analysis.
Candidates should submit
1. an application form
2. a short essay describing their interest in mathematics
3. a transcript
4. two letters of recommendation
Application materials may be requested by mail, FAX, or e-mail:
MASS Program, Department of Mathematics,
Penn State University, University Park, PA 16802
(814) 865-7527 / FAX:(814) 865-3735
e-mail: mass@math.psu.edu
or obtained from MASS home page on WWW at the URL:
http://www.math.psu.edu/mass/
Applications may be submitted by mail, FAX, or e-mail, and should
reach Penn State by 4 pm on Friday, March 15, 1996. Decisions will
be announced by April 1 ( :-)) -- D.K.)
TUITION AND HOUSING
The participants will be responsible for the SMALLER of the two
amounts: Penn State in-state tuition and tuition in their home
university. The balance will be paid by Penn State through a system
of scholarships established for this purpose.
Most likely, the participants will be provided an opportunity to
live in one of the Residence Halls on campus.
CREDITS
Students will get credits for the courses and the seminar which
should be transferable to their schools and a certificate from
the MASS Program at Penn State. Additional recognition will be
provided through prizes and certificates for achievements in
solving problems and for best papers.
ADMINISTRATION
The MASS program will be managed by the full-time Director Dr.
A.G. Kouchnirenko with the help of the administrative assistant
Ms. J. Reed.
The overall supervision of the MASS program will be provided by
the Scientific Advisory Board which will include the head and
several senior members of Penn State's mathematics faculty,
several outstanding mathematicians from other institutions and
the Director of the MASS program.
Participants will be selected by the Selection Committee headed
by a member of the Scientific Advisory Board.
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S nailuchshimi pojelaniyami,
Tolya Kouchnirenko
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Hi,
This is to promote the music of a friend of
mine. His name is Patrick Moore, he is a Doctor of
Medicine and in addition to that, a composer and singer. He
has been in Russia and was very impressed with
St.Petersburg, so, he has written several songs about
Russia, one of them in Russian. You can find him at
http://www.iuma.com/IUMA-2.0/ftp/volume7/MOORE/index.html
You can also write him at moore@iglou.com
Regards,
Sasha Goldfarb
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Tver InterContact Group Proudly Announces the First Issue
of its New Newsletter, Russian in Russia!
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Dear Colleagues:
The International Institute of Russian Language and Culture, in
conjunction with the Center for International Education of Tver
InterContact Group, announces the first issue of its new
informational newsletter "Russian in Russia." This newsletter
is addressed primarily to professors of Russian as a foreign
language, students and administrators of Slavic languages and
Russian Studies Departments, language and cultural center
specialists, international program directors, secondary school
teachers and students of Russian, as well as to all other
persons interested in Russian language and culture. It is printed
in Russian, and will be distributed by postal mail.
We hope, through this newsletter, to add diversity to your
professional reading list. We aim to provide objective
reporting of all educational issues and events of interest to
our readers. For those interested in receiving the first issue,
(the first six month subscription will be free of charge), please
send a request to Richard Smith at INFO@ic.redline.ru,
including your postal (i.e. snail mail) address.
Best regards,
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The Russian Club announces:
1. Defense Group Inc. (DGI) is looking for Russian linguists to support a
potential contract with the US On-Site Inspection Agency (OSIA) to support
to implementation of the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), which is the
first global chemical weapons disarmament treaty. This project will require
20-25 Russian -language linguists\escorts to work with Russian inspectors
on Johnston Island to monitor the implementation of the CWC and an
associated bilateral US-Russian chemical weapons distribution agreement.
Johnston Island is a US chemical weapons storage and dismantlement
facility located approximately 8000 miles from Hawaii.
As of January 1996, 130 countries had sighed the CWC and 47 countries had
ratified it. According to the terms of the treaty, it will enter into force
when 65 countries have ratified it, which is expected to happen in May
1996. DGI plans to submit a proposal to provide Russian-language support
for the Johnston Island facility when OSIA releases a formal request for
proposals; this is expected to occur very soon.
Job requirements are as follows:
* Personnel must be able to pass the defense language proficiency test or
equivalent for Russian, Version IV, level 3+/3+ in reading/listening and
comprehension/speaking
* Successfully pass medical exam
* MUST BE A US CITIZEN
* Must be flexible to work 9 week periods at Johnston Island
* After 9 week period there will be a 3 week vacation
* Knowledge of technical/chemical terminology is a plus
* Excellent salary and benefits will be based on language proficiency,
experience and background qualifications
Anticipated deployment to Johnston Island by October 1996
Please mail or fax your Resume to:
Defense Group Inc.
111 South Bedford St.
Burlington Mass 01803
Attn: Andy Klinoff
FAX 617-273-0390
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:11:47
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Dear netters!
I need some advice on how can I bring to US my parents and cover them by
medical insurance.
I am a permanent resident of US for 2 years. My father can apply for
permanent residency as an alien with extraordinary abilities, he has more
than enough credentials, but he is 66. Can age be a problem? Will he be
then covered by any medical plan?
The matter is a rather urgent one, because he may need a heart surgery in
the near future and it costs in Russia tens of thousands of $ (!).
Any advices will be greatly appreciated.
Nicolai Avdulov ( avdul001@maroon.tc.umn.edu )
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Privet!
Mnje nuzhno naiti russko-angliskij slovar' po medicini. Esli kto znait
gde mne naiti takoi slovar' proshu pisat' na etot adres.
Hi all,
I need to find a russian english medical dictionary. Anyone knowing
where I can find one, please write to the return address. Thanks in
advance.
Tamara Vodvarka
http://www.angelfire.com/free/russ.html
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Prodolzhaetsja srazhenie za Groznyj
7/03/1996
Vtoroj den' prodolzhajutsja ozhestochennye boi za Groznyj mezhdu
federal'noj gruppirovkoj i neskol'kimi sotnjami boevikov
chechenskogo Soprotivlenija. Primerno tret' goroda polnost'ju
kontroliruetsja dudaevcami, imi zanjaty TEC, 2 rajotdela vnutrennix
del. Idut boi vozle pravitel'stvennyx zdanij v centre goroda, za
mosty cherez Sunzhu, na ploschadi "Minutka" (naprotiv centra goroda
na pravom beregu reki). Komendatury federal'nyx vojsk
obstrelivajutsja.
Pri etom poka chto pochti ne ispol'zuetsja tjazhelaja artillerija i
aviacija, poetomu na sosednix ulicax rabotajut rynochki, ljudi
kuda-to idut po svoim delam. Zavgaevskaja milicija projavljala
krajnjuju passivnost', i zamministra vnutrennix del dazhe obratilsja
po TV (!) k dudaevcam s prizyvom "ne provocirovat'" sily MVD
respubliki. Segodnja v seredine dnja vozvyshennosti v gorode i chast'
pravitel'stvennyx zdanij zanjaty desantnikami i armejskim
specnazom, smenivshimi chasti MVD Rossii.
Kartina poka krajne nejasnaja, tak kak bol'shinstvo korrespondentov
izolirovany. Segodnja pri popytke proexat' v gorod obstreljana
federalami mashina telekompanii NTV. Podbitaja mashina s ljud'mi
vyvezena iz-pod ognja na buksire mashinoj agentstva "Reuter".
V Sernovodske nachalas' "zachistka". Aviacija bol'she ne bombit, zato
slyshen nepreryvnyj strekot pulemetov i avtomatov. Oficial'no
zaregistrirovano 16000 bezhencev iz poselka, ostalos' esche 3,5-4
tysjachi. Segodnja udalos' vyrvat'sja tol'ko dvoim. Voennye vlasti
oficial'no ob'javili, chto ne pozvoljat pokinut' poselok muzhchinam,
no i ostal'nym vyxodit' tozhe ne dajut. U kordona vystroilis'
mashiny MChS, Federal'noj migracionnoj sluzhby i medikov, odnako ix
ne propuskajut. Segodnja k nim dobavilas' gruppa deputatov Dumy,
zaruchivshixsja (krome prav, predostavlennyx statusom deputata -
svobodnyj proezd v ljuboe mesto v RF), pis'mennym razresheniem
komandujuschego operaciej. Ix, odnako, ne propustili. Pribyvshij
zamestitel' komandujuschego polkovnik Nikolaev skazal, chto,
vozmozhno, razreshit ix proezd zavtra. On zhe ob'jasnil, chto nikakix
boevikov v poselke i rjadom net - "vse ushli v Groznyj". Na vopros
deputatov - "v kogo streljajut?" - pojasnil, chto "obstanovka
slozhnaja, kak ushli, tak i pridut".
A esche segodnja El'cin ob'javil, chto ne oglasit svoix znamenityx
planov prekraschenija vojny, "tak kak oni dolzhny ostat'sja sekretom
dlja banditov". Tak chto "krome mordobitiev, nikakix chudes".
Kstati, El'cin esche skazal (v razgar boev) chto "Groznyj polnost'ju
ochischen ot boevikov".
Za etu nedelju esche neskol'ko "liderov obschestvennogo mnenija"
publichno pokajalis' v nevernosti prezidentu i objazalis' vsecelo
ego podderzhat'. El'cin za eto chut'-chut' uvelichil element
antikommunisticheskoj ritoriki. Deshevaja cena, no dlja mnogix -
vpolne dostatochnaja.
Vash Alik
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From: "Andrei Andrianov"
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DAVAITE, CHTO LI, NEMNOGO POSTRELIAEM?
Proizoshel sovershenno huliganskii nalet dudaevcev na
Groznyi. Neskol'ko soten banditov profil'trovalis' v gorod (eto
neslojno - okrainy Groznogo nikak ne perekryty) i neskol'ko sutok
razvlekalis' partizanskoi voinoi v bol'shom gorode.
Sobstvenno voisk v gorode ne bylo - oni stoiat v prigorode. V
gorode - lish' jandarmy (t.e. vnutrennie voiska) i mestnaia
miliciia (t.e. lichnaia armiia Doku Zavgaeva). Vse, na chto oni
okazalis' sposobny - eto otbivat'sia v okrujenii (chto i
neudivitel'no).
Napadaiushie vzorvali vodozabory vodoprovoda, razgromili
neskol'ko blok-postov (check-point) i - verh dostijenii - pokazali
Dudaeva po mestnomu TV na 5 minut. Stoilo za eto polojit' sotniu
svoih...
Tak ili inache "posle togo, kak v gorod byl vveden batal'on
desantnikov, obstanovka nachala stabilizirovat'sia" (iz
mass-media). Inache govoria, bandity rassredotochilis' obratno i
ushli v gory.
V obshem, meropriiatie chisto agitacionnoe i vpolne
bessmyslennoe. No kakovy dudaevskie boeviki, gotovye slojit'
golovu iskliuchitel'no radi udovol'stviia poizdevat'sia nad
protivnikom! Highlanders - oni i v Chechne highlanders.
Kstati, o gorcah. Esli u etogo naleta vse je iskat' smysl -
on mojet byt' razve chto v jelanii diskreditirovat' moskovskogo
stavlennika Zavgaeva (kak ne kontroliruiushego obstanovku daje v
svoei stolice). Otsiuda sleduet, chto Dudaev Zavgaeva dostatochno
real'no opasaetsia.
Eto, v obshem, pravdopodobno. Zavgaev ne pustyshka - on sam
mestnyi kniaz' s dostatochno sil'nym klanom. (V brejnevskoe vremia
pervym sekretarem v feodal'noi respublike stanovilsia, kak
pravilo, VTOROI po znacheniiu mestnyi kniaz' - divide et impera.)
Drugoe delo, chto ego klan - eto uje razlojennye civilizaciei
jiteli dolin s nizkoi boesposobnost'iu, chto i nabliudaem.
Prihodit na um istoriia Shotlandii - ochen' pohoje. Tam
anglichane v protivoves miatejnym dikim Stewart-am podderjivali
sravnitel'no loial'nyh i chut' menee dikih Campbell-ov. Eto, v
obshem, rabotalo - po merkam XVIII veka (krupnye vosstaniia raz v
30 let i postoiannyi melkii terror).
Ubit Kizliarsko-Pervomaiskii "geroi" Salman Raduev.
Utverjdaetsia, chto v perestrelke mejdu svoimi. KGB klianetsia,
chto ne pri chem.
Po sluham, tiajelo ranen dudaevskii nachshataba Aslan
Mashadov - v perestrelke s boevikami pokoinogo Radueva. On-to
deistvitel'no geroi.
"U etih aziatov vse tak: natianulis' busy, i poshla reznia!"
Maksim Maksimych (Geroi nashego vremeni).
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NOVOSTI AVIACII
Permskii aviaturbinnyi nakonec osvoil novyi PS-90A - s tiagoi
16 tonn, klassa novyh boingoskih, no, kak govoriat, luchshe. Budut
stavit' na Il-96.
KB Suhogo postavilo na SU-27 novyi dvigatel' s povorotnym
soplom. Utverjdaetsia, chto eto sensaciia.
Na NATO-vskih manevrah vo Francii nemeckie MiG-29
(ostavshiesia ot GDR) vyigrali VSE vozdushnye boi (s F-18 i
Mirajami).
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SOCIOLOGIIA PROVINCII
"Tam vdaleke zavod dymit, gremit jelezom,
nenujnym nikomu: ni p'ianym, ni tverezym."
Brodskii.
Gruppa iskliuchitel'no razumnyh sociologov iz Kurgana (?!)
provela ochen' tolkovoe sociologicheskoe issledovanie. Eto svodka
ochen' osmyslennyh oprosov za VSE gody "reform". (Vse - iz digesta
v gazete "Segodnia". Gruppu vozglavlial N.Gorin, sbornik
predstavlen v "ekspertnom institute RSPP". )
Poligon: 75% proizvodstva - tiajeloe mashinostroenie,
chetvert' ego - voenka.
Itogi: v I kvartale 1995 proizvodstvo - 43% k urovniu 1991.
Dohody: v 1990 - 2.36 standartnoi korziny; v 1995 - 1.12.
Sredniaia sem'ia - 2.8 cheloveka. Real'naia zarplata obespechivaet
3/4 projitochnogo minimuma (ves'ma asketichnogo).
Dolia trat na NEprodvol'stvennye tovary: 1991 - 51%; 1992-3 -
30%; 1995 - 18.5%.
"Esli v 1991-2 bedniakami byli preimushestvenno invalidy,
odinokie pensionery i chernorabochie, to k 1995 v etoi gruppe
okazalis' kvalificirovannye rabochie (!-AA), rukovoditeli nizovyh
zven'ev, specialisty, rabotniki social'noi sfery."
Dinamika: byli nedovol'ny
v 1986 1990 1994
medicinoi 24% 30% 47%
policiei 27 51 62
kul'turoi (?-AA) 27 - 47
shkolami 15 23 31
meriei 20 45 58
Vopros: a kak je liudi jivut?
Otvet: a ochen' prosto. Vse pereshli na pitanie s sadovyh
uchastkov (kotorye razdavalis' svobodno). Inache govoria,
kvalificirovannye rabochie prevratilis' v nekvalificirovannyh
fermerov.
V obshem, sm. epigraf. Teper' zavod ne gremit, nu i fig s
nim.
Vopros: a pochemu je vse do sih por ne vzorvalos'?
Klapanov tri. Pervyi: sad-ogorod. Esli ne len' kopat' zemliu
- s golodu ne umresh'. Vtoroi: naibolee aktivnaia chast'
naseleniia pri dele - zanimaetsia melkoi torgovlei
(chelnoki-kontrabandisty, lotochniki-larechniki etc). Eto remeslo
vpolne massovoe i otvlekaet teh, kto mogli by kogo-nibud' dlia
chego-ibud' vozglavit'. I tret'e - nevidannaia deshevizna vodki:
$1 butylka pri zarplate tipa $70-100; sravnit' s 5.30 pri zarplate
200 rub.
"Za tri goda reform absoliutno passivnaia chast' naseleniia
kak sostavliala, tak i sostavliaet 30%. Dolia aktivno
adaptiruiushegosia naseleniia snizilas' s 28% do 21%."
"Gorodskie jiteli golosuiut preimushestvenno za kommunistov.
Oblastnye - za Jirinovskogo."
Ia ih vpolne ponimaiu.
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S 8-M MARTA!
V mejdunarodnyi jenskii den' 6 kanalov TV pokazali:
"Jenit'bu Figaro" (s Mironovym i SHirvindtom)
"Formulu liubvi" (chudesnyi fil'm Marka Zaharova)
"Vokzal dlia dvoih" (Riazanov, s Gurchenko i Basilashvili)
"Solomennuiu shliapku" (Mironov i Gurchenko)
"Kavkazskuiu plennicu" (Gaidaia; ochen' svejo smotritsia...)
"Nejnyi policeiskii" (A.Girardot, P.Noiret)
"Unesennyh vetrom" (te samye, s Vivian Lee i Clarkom Gabelom)
i, nakonec,
"Mujchinu i jenshinu" (teh samyh, Leliushevskih, kotorye
ta-ra-pa-ra-ram - ta-ra-pa-ra-ram ...)
Tak-to!
Vseh jenshin-podpischikov pozdravliaiu s 8-m Marta!
(Nadeius', eto ne est' sostav prestupleniia po amerikanskim
zakonam? Ravnopravie iavno narusheno...)
Vash
Andrei.
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I have found the story "the Old Lyubar" by Ikhil Falikman in 1975 published
in Russian. My family is from Lyubar.
I would like to contact Ikhil Falikman regarding his work. Does anyone
know how to locate him? Is he alive? Still in Kiev? Are his relatives in
Ukraine/Russia/US/Israel?
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Ellen Shindelman
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Dear netters!
I am Russian scientist working in Osaka, Japan. In nearest future I plan
to visit New York shortly. If you know this city well, could you please
advice me:
1. Affordable hotel in not too dangerous suberb;
2. Tax free shop where I can find Hi-fi or even hi-end audioequipment
swithable to different voltages (don't be surprised: Japanese goods at
least 1.5 times cheaper in USA than in Japan itself);
3. Good and not-expensive record shop;
4. Most convenient New York Airport (closest, easest and cheapest access
to city) from JFK, Newark and La Guardia.
My email address is serge@sonic.image.med.osaka-u.ac.jp
Thank you in advance,
Serge Shishkin.
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Hi Folks,
1. I'm looking for Alex & Victoria Gorshtein came to USA from Kharkov about
1992-1993. Possible keywords: fizfak of the Kharkov university (1987-1992),
chess, San-Francisco.
2. Inna Kantorov (one of subscribers) is asked by Beka (stas@xenia.kharkov.ua)
to report her _real_ EMail address (something like *.actcom.co.il, eh?) because
on some problems to contact via bar-ilan university.
Thank you in advance
Victor
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Victor Bolotnikov, Tigers Ltd. Origin: Excuse my bad Russian:
victor@cs.bgu.ac.il my native language is
ex- victor@users.comp.pgu.karelia.ru Borland Pascal 7.0
http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~victor/
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Hello,
For some bureaucratic reasons, I need to refer to a few
people who
1. hold soviet "candidate nauk" diploma which was de facto
or better de jure recognized as an equivalent to a Ph.D.;
2. hold an academic (teaching) position at one of the US or
Canadian (even better) universities.
All I need are names and addresses (university+department).
Andrei V. Malevsky
Departement d'informatique et
de recherche operatinelle
Universite de Montreal
Centre de Recherche en Calcul Applique
5160, boul. Decarie, bureau 400
Montreal (Quebec) H3X 2H9 CANADA
phone: (514) 369 5267
fax: (514) 369 3880
e-mail: malevsky@cerca.umontreal.ca
malevsky@iro.umontreal.ca
WWW: http://www.cerca.umontreal.ca/~malevsky
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Uvashaemye INFO-Netter,
Proshu o vashej pomosci! Ja razyskyvaju dokumentaciju ljubovo roda
otnositelno:
1. Processa kremljovskich (evrejskich) vracej 1952 goda,
2. Stalinskovo proekta deportacii russkih evreev v Birobidschan,
propagandisticeskoj podgotovkoj kotorovo slushil etot process.
Komu znakomy publikacii, dokumenty, (na ljubom jazyke) ocevidcy ili ucastniki,
lica imejuscie otnoshenie k etomu processu (rodstvenniki, potomki zertv, itd.)
i k proektu deportacii, zivuscie v ljuboj strane mira?
3. Kto moshet dostavatj (ili, esli nushno, kopirovatj) knigu Ja.L.Rappoporta:
"Na rubeshe dvuch epoch - Delo vracej 1952 goda", izdannoj v Moskve v 1988 g.
(izdatelstvo k soshaleniju ne znakomo) ?
Otvecatj proshu po E-Mail 100556.3077@compuserve.com, ili po faksu:+49 681
816984 i telefonu +49 681 815588.
Zaranee blagodaren za ljubuju informaciju,
Stefan Fischer
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Dear folks,
The ad below could be of interest to some netters.
Alex
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Date: 3 MAR 1996 19:35:14 -0500
From: Azimuth OS
Newgroups: alt.computer.consultants
Subject: Put your Talents to Good Use!
New online services company is seeking entreprenurial minded team players
for a new startup venture. This new company is in the intermediate stages
of formation, and is actively seeking several key players in the company's
executive management structure. The company is located in Burbank, CA,
and all applicants must live within reasonable driving distance of that
city. The following positions are open:
Vice-President, Marketing- 7 to 10 years of direct marketing experience
with relevance to online services, Internet, computer-related or
telecommunications background. Senior level management experience a
definate plus but not necessary. Desired experience in creation of
marketing plans and strategies as well as preparation of materials and
copy for print. Previous experience in promotions management, market
analysis, and research is desired. This position requires a hands-on
manager who can accomplish all tasks in launching a new and unique product
from the ground up. Computer literacy a must.
Vice-President, Sales- 7 to 10 years direct sales experience in a
computer-related field or industry with management experience being highly
desirable. Must be willing and able to pound pavement, meet and greet
prospects and eventually manage a sales team. Will be responsible for
setting up territiories, sales strategies and will set sales goals that
are in direct correllation with the comany's projections for achievement
and profitability. Computer literacy a must.
Director, Information Technology- 5 to 7 years experience in networks,
telecommunications, programming, and Internet/ online services technology.
Hands on management of network and systems to include: Local Area
Networks, Wide Area Networks. Various topologies: TCP/IP, IPX/SPX,
ISDN, Frame Relay, T1. Network Operating Systems: Novell Netware, Windows
NT, and AppleShare networks. Programming experience with MS FoxPro,
FileMaker Pro, or MS Access considered to be a definate plus. Will be
working in conjunction with the president on engineering and establishment
of company's technology infrastructure. Knowledge of Apple Macintosh
computers and networks a must. Additional PC/Windows knowledge a plus.
All positions will require hard work and some risk (no financial
investment required). Although positions are executive level, the sleeves
will have to be rolled up, and trenches will have to be dug by these team
members before the first employee can even be hired. The reward will be
well worth the effort, given the nature of this new service.
Please submit your resume via e-mail, either in plain text or as a
Microsoft Word document. The address is azimuthos@aol.com. No phone
calls please.
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Dorogie druz'ja, ja poluchil nedavnee soobschenie
Andreja Andrianova na info-russe, kotoroe (mezhdu drugih vechei,
kotoryh ya zdes' ne kasayus') obsuzhdaet situatsiyu v Chechne.
Mne predstavljaetsja, chto v etoi chasti ego texta
est' netochnosti, a vyvody ne sootvetstvuyut factam.
Vash Alik.
Boi v Groznom, ranenie Masxadova i A.A.
1. V Groznom, dejstvitel'no, byli dislocirovany podrazdelenija
Vnutrennix Vojsk MVD, a ne armii. No eto ne "zhandarmy" v
zapadnom, naprimer, francuzskom, ponimanii etogo slova. Eto
vojska, sostojaschie iz divizij, vooruzhennyx po-armejski
(artdiviziony, tankovyj polk), soderzhaschie v svoem sostave
boevuju (vertoletnuju) aviaciju. S leta 1995 goda oni nesut v
Chechne osnovnuju tjazhest' boevyx dejstvij. V masshtabe strany -
eto otdel'naja, bolee sil'naja, chem Suxoputnye vojska (pravda,
ne imejuschaja takticheskogo jadernogo oruzhija) armija. V Groznom -
eto ne tol'ko "zhandarmy" (xotja xvatalo i ix), no i tanki,
bronetexnika, pushki, vertolety...
2. Zavgaevskaja milicija, dejstvitel'no, ne okazyvala
skol'ko-nibud' ser'eznogo soprotivlenija. Prichina - vovse ne
"nevoinstvennost' klana Zavgaeva" (vse voobsche shotlandskie
paralleli pritjanuty za ushi), a institut krovnoj mesti, do six
por uspeshno predotvraschavshij boevye dejstvija mezhdu chechencami.
3. Iz teksta A.A. mozhno tak ponjat', chto "zhandarmy" nichego ne
smogli podelat', no pribyl batal'on VDV, i boeviki posypalis'
proch'. Povtorjus', chto sily, imevshiesja u federalov v gorode,
mnogo prevosxodili odin batal'on. Srednij batal'on VDV, voobsche
govorja, ne sil'nee batal'ona specnaza MVD. Na samom dele v
techenie 8 marta podtjanulis' gromadnye sily (sotni edinic
bronetexniki, naprimer), no boeviki otoshli uzhe utrom 8 marta.
Tem ne menee, vecherom i noch'ju proisxodil obstrel kvartalov
goroda iz tankovyx orudij - kak govorili soldaty,
demonstrirovali userdie ministru Kulikovu.
4. Nakonec, glavnoe: tochka zrenija A.A. na celi i rezul'taty
operacii ekstravagantna - ee nikto iz rossijskix ekspertov i
zhurnalistov ne razdeljaet. Obscheprinjatyj vyvod: udar byl
nanesen, chtoby otvlech' rossijskie vojska ot predgornyx sel
(vypolneno) i utverdit' Dudaeva kak effektivnogo lidera. Delo
v tom, chto vse plany "umirotvorenija" po El'cinu strojatsja na
tom, chto Dudaev nichego i nikogo ne kontroliruet, peregovory
nado vesti s kakimi-to nikomu ne vedomymi starejshinami i
"avtoritetami", chut' li ne s Zavgaevym ("zakonno izbrannym
predstavitelem vsego chechenskogo naroda"). Vot boeviki i
pokazali, naskol'ko eto verno... Stoit otmetit', chto ix
strategicheskaja cel' - provalit' pereizbranie E., i s etoj
tochki zrenija rejd na Groznyj byl effektiven.
5. Segodnja po dudaevskomu TV vystupil A.Masxadov i zajavil, chto
sluxi o ego smerti ili ranenii sil'no preuvelicheny. On takzhe
skazal, chto i preslovutyj "dudaevskij zjat'" Raduev tozhe zhiv. V
eto neslozhno poverit', esli vspomnit', chto virtual'nye
"smerti" chechenskix komandirov byli do six por osnovnym uspexom
rossijskix generalov.
6. Skol'ko ni govori "xalva"... Ja xochu skazat', chto uporstvo,
s kotoryx A.A. povtorjaet slovo "bandity", ne pribavljaet ego
tekstu ni argumentirovannosti, ni tochnosti. Dopustim, kakoj-to
ego opponent budet pisat' "muzhestvennye borcy za svobodu".
Soderzhatel'nyj u nix poluchitsja razgovor...
A.S.
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Hi everyone,
I am planning to spend some time in Europe this summer
( two weeks in Rome, same
amount of time in Paris and Madrid).
I need your advice on where to stay in those cities.
YouthHostel is certainly an option, but I am hoping to
find something less expensive, and yet safe.
Thanks and have a great summer!
My e-mail:
traevskaya@student.med.harvard.edu
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Dear netters,
I am involved in software development in Melbourne, Australia. I am going to
visit Paris from 20 May to 30 May 1996. Could you please advice me:
1.People from companies or other institutions in Paris that are involved in
software development who could be interested in discussion and, possibly further
coperation. I am particularly interested in modelling of networks (LAN, Global
etc) and in performance monitors for networks and mainframes (we have developed
a commercial version of them).
2. A budget hotel with private facilities in a central area, say Latin quartier.
My email address is: 100231.433@compuserve.com if you send it from Internet or
100231,433 if you send it from CompuServe.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards, Boris Golembo
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I would be grateful for any info or advice
how to find a funding for someone accepted to Brown University
PhD program in Art History (even tuition is not waived).
Citezenship: Russia
Education: M.A. from Moscow State, internship in Geneva and Jerusalem
Languages: French, English.
There must be some funding organization out there
that may take into consideration
the fact a candidate has already been
accepted to a good school.
Thank yo in advance
please reply to ldp@cs.brown.edu
-Leonid Peshkin
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From: "Alexander Soifer"
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I wanted to write in subject above "Kieslowski dies", and I couldn't. A
sence of a personal loss is overwhelming...
Kieslowski lived in a totalitarian Poland, and made films against the
tyranny of the marshial law ('Without End"). He lately enetered the world
of a big buck cinema, and refused to compromise his artistic integrity.
At the zenith of his success, he announced in 1994 that he would retire,
then 52, to his "books, wine and cigarettes."
Kieslowski is ever present in his films as a wise, gentle man, caring about
the world. He has not looked for inspiration in historical epics -- he
wrote about and filmed lives of ordinary people, and he found the world of
passion, feelings and thoughts in his ordinary heroes. Even his 10-hour
long Ten Commandments he set in an contamporary, ordinary urban neighborhood
('Decalog').
Striking cinematography, wonderful music by Preisner, successful
performances of every actor, first of all Irene Jacob and Juliette Binoche
came together in Kieslowski's world, which I will keep inside me forever.
Stupid, uninformed Associated Press adds insult to the injury by writing
today that "'Red', the final film in the series, received a 1994 Academy Award
nomination for Best Foreign Film." The opposite, in fact, is true: a fearful
and envious Academy disqualified submitted by Switzerland 'Red', as being
not Swiss enough (just photographed in Geneva, just starring Swiss Jacob,
just partly funded by the Swiss). Did Academy believe that the film
should have been submitted by Poland, since the script, direction and
music were created by the Poles? Positively not! Why am I so sure?
Because a year earlier submitted by Poland 'White' was rejected for being
not Polish enough! I believe the Academy waged a war against Kieslowski
because all the Hollywood produced action and trickery paled so miserably
next to honest, genious films of Krzystof Kieslowski. Yes, 65 signed a
protest against discqualification of 'Red", including Robert de Niro,
Jody Foster and Quentin Tarrentino. Yes, as a protest, Kieslowski was
nominated for best direction and best screenplay. But, surely, nobody
seriously considered him a condender to Zemekis of 'Forrest Dumb' (sorry:
Gump).
I love Kieslowski and the world of his cinema. I salute this
uncompromising, truly independent creator.
Kieslowsky lives. I will view today his "Double Life of Veronique.'
Alexander Soifer, U. of Colorado
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: Looking for Novosibirsk U grads 76'
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I would like to reconnect with graduates of
the Novosibirsk U - Mechmat - 76'.
At that time I was known as Ilya Roitelman.
my e-mail: talman@mcs.com
http://www.roy-talman.com
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Hi, guys,
I am leaving MIT to work for my own company, and as I am going to lose
my MIT e-mail address, I need a replacement. I need advice on the most
cost-effective way to set up an e-mail at my house. Compuserve, MCI,
Netcom, etc... Those who made already this market analysis, please share
your knowledge!
Huge thanks in advance,
Julia Sigalovsky
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Hello,
If any of you can direct me to an interesting, reliable, local source of
information in English regarding the current presidential campaign in
Russia, I will appreciate such information. I am keeping a journal on
the process for my Ethnography class on Central/Eastern Europe. The
American press offers little coverage (and besides carries its own agenda
to the reporting). I receive an on-line newsletter from Prague (OMRI)
that is very helpful, and that made me realize that there are probably
other good sources available that I simply don't know about yet.
I can be addressed at: jkenyon@unomaha.edu or at: jfrovk@aol.com
Thank you!
Jane A. Kenyon
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The msg below is on behalf of Nantian Qian, a
mathematician of Chinese origin, currently at Yale. Please
reply directly to him at qian@math.yale.edu.
************
Do you know of the existence of any Russian word processor
that is freeware of shareware? Or commercial ones that are
not expensive. My father-in-law is visiting us and he SPEAKS
and WRITES in Russian very well, and would like to write by
computer instead of type-writer.
Windows 3.1 or MSDOS both are OK environments.
No advanced features are needed, just some simple
editor that handles editing and printing.
Any information would be appreciated.
Nantian
qian@math.yale.edu
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Folks,
Relatives of mine are looking for Max Ivenitskiy. He left St. Petersburg in
1986 and used to live in Bronx, NY. He left with his father who was a
well-known artist in Russia. Max is in his high thirties (38?) now.
I would appreciate if anybody could share information on this person's
whereabouts.
Evgeniy Kalmens
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tel. (708)655-7669 daytime
(312)743-0940 home
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Samashkinskaja bol'nica snova v ogne
18/03/1996
Proshel god s momenta pogroma Vnutrennimi vojskami MVD bol'shogo
(okolo 10 tys. zhitelej) chechenskogo sela Samashki, stoivshego
okolo 100 ubityx mirnyx zhitelej - i vot snova bronirovannyj
kulak udaril po tomu zhe mestu. Est' otlichija ot proshlogodnego
scenarija - togda (nesmotrja na zajavlenie, chto selo polno
boevikov) vlasti znali, chto ne vstretjat ser'eznogo
soprotivlenija (mirnoe selo podpisalo dogovor s mestnym
komandovaniem o mire, i boevikov v nem ne bylo), i obstrel iz
tankovyx orudij i s vertoletov byl ne slishkom ser'eznym -
preimuschestvenno po okrainam. Srazu pristupili k "zachistke" -
zabrasyvaniju granatami podvalov, rasstrelam, podzhogam. Imenno
tak - rukami soldat MVD - byli sozhzheny mnogie zdanija v sele.
Segodnja umirotvorenie Chechni i Samashek zashlo tak daleko, chto
podojti k usmirennomu god nazad selu vojska ne reshilis', tri
dnja ego obstrelivala tjazhelaja artillerija i bombila aviacija
raznogo podchinenija - milicejskaja, armejskaja i VVS. Kak obychno,
zhiteljam ne dajut vyjti, tem ne menee mnogim kak-to udaetsja
dobrat'sja do Ingushetii. Predpolozhitel'no ostalos' okolo 4000
chelovek. Selo pylaet. Vo vtoroj polovine dnja v okrainnuju chast'
ego voshla pexota.
Po slovam bezhencev, segodnjashnej bombezhkoj razrushena
Samashkinskaja bol'nica, vosstanovlennaja posle proshlogodnego
pogroma nemeckoj gumanitarnoj missiej i snabzhennaja novejshej
apparaturoj. Uchityvaja, chto slovo Samashki uzhe vstalo v rjad s
Lidice i Oradurom, vse eto - kakoj-to koshmar v kvadrate.
Rossijskie sredstva massovoj informacii uvlechenno obsuzhdajut
postanovlenie Dumy (ob SSSR) i reakciju prezidenta na nego. Eto
tak uvlekatel'no...
Vash Alik
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Moskovskie kannibal'skie novosti
I. Vyselenie 2 mln. chelovek reshit problemy bogatyx
V poslednem nomere "Nedeli" pomeschena stat'ja obozrevatelja
Aleksandra Astaf'eva ("N", #9/96b str.15), napisannaja po
materialam besed s chinovnikami moskovskoj merii i ekspertami
zhilischnogo rynka. Dlja tex, kto, mozhet byt', etogo ne znaet -
"Nedelja" - organ, blizkij i lojal'nyj Ju.Luzhkovu, a te
rielterskie firmy, v kotoryx rabotajut upomjanutye eksperty,
tozhe javljajutsja "chastnymi lavochkami" lish' formal'no.
Osnovnaja chast' posvjaschena probleme pereselenija pjatietazhek.
Vot kakie obnaruzhivajutsja momenty:
1. Po zakonu, te obitateli pjatietazhek, kotorye privatizirovali
svoe zhil'e, LIShAJuTSJa PRAVA privatizirovat' kvartiru,
vydavaemuju im vzamen snosimogo doma. To est' lishajutsja sovej
sobstvennosti. Zamechu ot sebja, chto kogda takoe proisxodit pri
snose avarijnyx domov, eto xotja by mozhno ponjat' - eto kak
vrode by tvoj sobstvennyj dom sgorel - sam vinovat. No kogda
(kak eto predusmotreno programmoj pereselenija i uzhe delaetsja,
skazhem, v Filjax) vyseljajut SOBSTVENNIKOV, chtoby pereoborudovat'
dom v elitnyj - chto eto, kak ne konfiskacija imuschestva?
Te zhe, kto budet tjanut' s privatizaciej v nadezhde togda
privatizirovat' novoe zhil'e, podpadajut pod zapret privatizacii
NOVYX kvartir v techenie pjati let. Za eto vremja navernjaka budet
prekraschena besplatnaja privatizacija. Nekotorye eksperty
schitajut, chto eto proizojdet uzhe v techenie goda. Togda merija
budet rukovodstvovat'sja t.n. "rynochnoj" stoimost'ju zhil'ja
(sostavljajuschej, po ee mneniju, 1300 $ za kv.m).
2. Ozhidaetsja, chto v blizhajshee vremja zhitelej pjatietazhek,
osobenno iz elitnyx rajonov (jugo-zapad), nachnut pereseljat' v
otdalennye rajony, gde stoimost' zhil'ja znachitel'no (raza v
2-3) nizhe. Neobxodimost' otdavat' dorogie kvadratnye metry
pereseljaemym zhiteljam pjatietazhek obremenitel'na dlja investorov
i delaet proekty pereoborudovanija maloprivlekatel'nymi.
3. Vot poslednij abzac stat'i:
"Snizit' rost cen na nedvizhimost' vozmozhno lish' za schet
pereselenija v Podmoskov'e lic, social'no i ekonomicheski ne
adaptirovannyx. A takix, po podschetam ekspertov, v Moskve ot
15 do 20% zhitelej".
II. Rabstva ne budet, no budet takaja svoboda,
chto vy esche pozhaleete
V Konstitucionnom sude rassmatrivaetsja isk neskol'kix chastnyx
lic (sredi kotoryx izvestnaja zhurnalistka Veronika Kucyllo,
avtor knigi o sobytijax oseni 1993 goda) i Prezidenta Respubliki
Komi k pravitel'stvu (merii) Moskvy o nekonstitucionnosti
moskovskogo gorodskogo zakona o denezhnom sbore za "registraciju
po mestu zhitel'stva", smenivshuju s 1 fevralja propisku. Sbor
sostavljaet ~6500$ (dlja grazhdan Rossii - dlja moskvichej 1300$,
dlja inostrancev - 13000$).
Propiska, etot relikt krepostnogo prava i istinnyj pozor
sovetskogo obraza zhizni, perezhila perestrojku i krushenie SSSR.
Postanovlenie o nekonstitucionnosti propiski vynes v poslednie
dni suschestvovanija Sojuza Komitet Konstitucionnogo Nadzora SSSR -
Rossija, priznavshaja sebja pravopriemnicej SSSR, "ne zametila"
etogo postanovlenija. Posle dolgix prenij "krasno-korichnevyj"
Verxovnyj Sovet RF odobril letom 1993 goda Zakon "O svobode
peredvizhenija i vybore mesta zhitel'stva". Prezident nalozhil na
nego veto. Po togdashnej, nikuda ne godnoj psevdokonstitucii,
veto prezidenta imelo lish' otlagatel'nyj xarakter, i zakon
dolzhen byl vstupit' v silu 1 oktjabrja 1993 goda. Diskussija o
tom, soxranil li on juridicheskuju silu v pogoreloj oktjabr'skoj
Moskve, imela - v uslovijax komendantskogo chasa i deportacij
inorodcev - javno akademicheskij xarakter.
Stoit zametit', chto S.A.Kovalev, vstavshij v osennem
stolknovenii na storonu prezidenta, tem ne menee reshitel'no
podderzhival v spore s Luzhkovym dejstvennost' etogo zakona...
El'cinskaja konstitucija soderzhit polozhenie, chto "ljuboe lico,
zakonno naxodjascheesja v RF [ v tom chisle inostranec ] imeet pravo
svobodno vybirat' sebe mesto zhitel'stva". Konstitucija, kak
izvestno, zakon prjamogo dejstvija, i est' neskol'ko (edinicy)
sluchaev, kogda istcy vyigryvali iski v sudax obschej jurisdikcii,
poluchaja pravo na propisku v Moskve bez uplaty ustanovlennoj
meriej platy za propisku. Nakonec, posle dolgix kolebanij, bylo
izdano rasporjazhenie pravitel'stva RF o vvedenii registracii
(vmesto propiski) grazhdan po mestu ix fakticheskogo zhitel'stva.
Pravitel'stvo ustanovilo i poshliny za etu operaciju (chisto
nominal'nogo razmera). Moskovskaja merija i administracija
Moskovskoj oblasti (a takzhe rjad drugix - Stavropol'skogo kraja,
naprimer) tut zhe otreagirovali vvedeniem svoix sborov (v
razmere prezhnej platy za propisku).
Sejchas vysokij sud zanjat muchitel'nymi poiskami balansa mezhdu
pravami grazhdan, konstituciej, federal'nymi zakonami i
postanovlenijami - i pozhelanijami mera, tak mnogo sdelavshego dlja
prezidenta. Trudno somnevat'sja, chto kivaly konstitucionnogo
suda ne zatrudnjat'sja sdelat' pravil'nyj vybor.
Vash Alik
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Folks,
Please, respond directly to Professor Singer.
Good luck!
==========
Announcement: Postdoctoral Research Position
We currently have an opening for a post-doctoral research investigator in
the Nonlinear Optics Group at the Case Western Reserve University (CWRU)
Department of Physics. This position is associated with a new project in
novel photorefractive polymers in collaboration with Virgil Percec, a
synthetic polymer chemist, at CWRU. Measurements to be carried out include
wave-mixing, beam coupling, and phototransport. The successful candidate
must have a Ph.D. in a relevant field, e.g. physics, optical sciences,
physical chemistry, and should be able to start in the early summer.
Applications including names or letters of reference should be sent to:
Prof. Kenneth Singer
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Nachalos' vesennee nastuplenie
22/03/1995
Itak, stalo jasno, chto imel v vidu El'cin, govorja o "planax
uregulirovanija v Chechne" - samoe moschnoe nastuplenie rossijskoj
armii s momenta shturma Groznogo. Esche ne zakonchiv shturm
Samashek (segodnja vos'moj den' boev za eto selo), vojska
nanesli odnovremennyj udar po Roshni-Chu, Komsomol'skomu,
Alxazurovu i Staromu Achxoju. Prodolzhajutsja boi za Bamut (uzhe
proshloj vesnoj mnogo raz perexodivshij iz ruk v ruki).
Samashki pochti polnost'ju unichtozheny. Segodnja nachalsja
kontaktnyj boj na okrainnyx ulicax. Mirnyx zhitelej ostalos'
okolo 4-6 tysjach. Chislo ubityx - neskol'ko sot. Federal'nye
vojska tol'ko plennymi poterjali 48 chelovek.
V Bamute boi prinjali zatjazhnoj pozicionnyj xarakter. Chechency
uspeshno ukryvajutsja ot bombezhek v shaxtax.
V Roshni-Chu vojska dali dva chasa na vyxod zhenschin i detej. V
sele ostalos' 1500 muzhchin vsex vozrastov.
Alxazurovo segodnja obstrelivali samolety i vertolety.
Vse eti sela i poselki - v jugo-zapadnoj Chechne, v predgor'jax.
Skladyvaetsja vpechatlenie, chto vojska kak minimum rasschityvajut
ottesnit' boevikov v gory, a mozhet byt', ne iskljuchajut i
polnoj pobedy. Mezhdu tem poteri ochen' vysoki, xotja i mnogo
men'she, chem sredi mirnogo naselenija. Oficial'naja
predvaritel'naja cifra za segodnja - 28 ubityx, obychno eti
cifry zanizheny raza v dva-tri. V kachestve protivodejstvija
chechenskoj storony mozhno ozhidat' novogo udara po Groznomu, a
takzhe sochetanija taktiki prosachivanija i zhestkoj oborony tam,
gde ona celesoobrazna.
El'cinu pomogaet usilivajuschajasja podderzhka Zapada nakanune
vyborov (poxozhe, on poluchil carte blanche ot Kristofera vo
vremja ego nedavnego vizita), no on v sil'nom cejtnote.
Telekanal NTV pokazal dva sjuzheta na blizkuju temu. Pervyj - o
tom, chto otrjad OMON iz Nizhnego Tagila dobrovol'no prositsja v
Chechnju. Oni kak-to nevnjatno govorili o svoix motivax ("xuzhe ne
budet"), potom diktor soobschil: specnazovcy ne poluchali
zarplaty neskol'ko mesjacev, a za komandirovku v Chechnju im
platjat 5 mln. rublej.
Vtoroj sjuzhet - ob oxotnikax na dezertirov. Gruppa etix
umel'cev, sxvativshaja okolo 100 (!) parnej i sdavshaja ix v
chasti, arestovana v Nizhnem Novgorode po obvineniju v
iznasilovanii sestry odnogo iz sxvachennyx imi parnej. V
Pitere ix obvinjajut vo vzjatochnichestve, a v Chite - v
pol'zovanii fal'shivymi milicejskimi udostoverenijami. Tak vot,
oni veli celenapravlennuju obrabotku svoix zhertv, obeschaja im
vsem osvobozhdenie ot tribunala za soglasie exat' v Chechnju.
Odno uteshaet v etom mire - chto chasy vse tikajut...
Vash Alik
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Hi, folks:
I would greatly appreciate your directing me to some newsgroups,
lists, etc., frequented by translators/ interpreters.
I would also appreciate if anybody pointed out the location
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Hello:
Probably I am not the only one chemist in the list who is looking for a
new position. According to the American Chemical Society 3/4 of the jobs
came through the networking. I will be glad to share valuable information
with other chemists as well as job hunting tips; for instance I have an
excess to the professional ABRF mailing list. The recent advertised
positions were for people with several areas of expertise, but not mine (I
am a peptide chemist and HPLC expert). I wonder if you might have this
position in your or related company (farmaceutical, bio/genetical,
whatever...). So, we can benefit from each other without bothering other
people in the list. If this sounds interesting to you, please drop me a
mail.
Regards,
Michael Breslav
College of Staten Island, NY
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Posylaju vam transliterirovannuju versiju stat'i A. Blinusheva iz
Rjazanskogo "Memoriala". Ona opublikovana v poslednem nomere
pravozaschitnogo ezhenedel'nika "Ekspress-xronika". V bol'shinstve sluchaev
ezhenedel'nik podderzhivaet B.N.E., xotja v poslednee vremja ego
pozicija stala bolee sbalansirovannoj (ili, skoree, eklektichnoj).
Tekst Blinusheva - xarakternyj obraz pozicii "frontovogo", a ne
"kabinetnogo" pravozaschtnika. Obraschaju osoboe vashe vnimanie
na poslednij abzac.
A.S.
Imejuschie dostup k WWW i russskie KOI-8 fonty, mogut chitat' "E-X" po
http://www.online.ru/mlists/ (dalee vybrat' "E-X - ezhenedel'nik")
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Proschenija nam ne budet
Andrej BLINUShOV (Rjazan')
22-03-96
Poslednij den' martovskoj ekspedicii v Chechnju. Dol'she ostavat'sja nevozmozhno
-- vyshli vse sroki. Doma -- zavalennye proekty, otmenennye vstrechi. Kazhdyj
raz, uezzhaja iz Chechni, chuvstvuju sebja predatelem. Kazhdyj raz ostavljaju ljudej v
krajne naprjazhennoj situacii. Kazhdyj raz nashi druz'ja, ostajuschiesja v etom
koshmare, zadajut odin i tot zhe vopros: "Ty skoro vernesh'sja?"
Kogda ja vernus'? Kogda "rodnye" federal'nye vojska rasstreljajut i razgrabjat
esche kakoe-nibud' selo? Ili kogda moskovskie ili tambovskie omonovcy opjat'
sxvatjat i uvezut v neizvestnom napravlenii desjatok krest'jan, chtoby potom
torgovat'sja s rodstvennikami -- tri milliona ili "zhigul'" za chabana i
shofera?!
Vyxodit, ja lgal, kogda ubezhdal zhitelej razbomblennogo Groznogo ne terjat'
very, ne ozlobljat'sja. Ved' skoro, govoril ja, eta strashnaja vojna dolzhna
konchit'sja. Ne konchaetsja. Stanovitsja vse bolee zhestokoj, smetaet poslednie
ostrovki mira na chechenskoj zemle. I my nichego ne mozhem s etim sdelat'. Pod
akkompanement nashix zajavlenij i press-konferencij vlast' prodolzhaet
unichtozhat' naselenie respubliki s nemyslimoj zhestokost'ju. Opuskajutsja ruki.
Kak zhit' so vsem etim? Ja ne znaju...
Karatel'naja operacija MVD i MO Rossii 3--4 marta 1996 goda v sele
Sernovodsk, na samoj granice s Ingushetiej, principial'no otlichalas' ot
pogroma, uchinennogo temi zhe vedomstvami v sele Samashki v aprele proshlogo
goda. Samashkinskaja "operacija" poluchila shirokuju izvestnost' -- eto byla
pervaja KARATEL'NAJa akcija. Potom byli Novogroznenskij, Aleroj...
Sernovodsk s samogo nachala vojny schitalsja "zonoj mira". Imenno sjuda
stekalis' bezhency so vsej Chechni. Kurort Sernovodsk-Kavkazskij, do 1991 goda
imevshij status "vsesojuznoj zdravnicy", prevratilsja v krupnyj bezhenskij
lager'. Ego korpusa prijutili okolo 9 tysjach byvshix zhitelej Groznogo,
Gudermesa, Arguna, Orexovo, Samashek... Esche neskol'ko tysjach vynuzhdennyx
pereselencev smogli razmestit'sja v sem'jax. Sernovodsk kuriroval Verxovnyj
komissariat po delam bezhencev OON, Mezhdunarodnyj Krasnyj Krest,
Mezhdunarodnaja organizacija po migracii, francuzskie "Vrachi bez granic",
nemeckij "Kapakamur". Za poslednie polgoda zdes' pobyvali Upolnomochennyj po
pravam cheloveka Kovalev, lider frakcii "Nash dom -- Rossija" Beljaev, deputaty
Soveta Federacii Shtejn i Kurochkin, Gosudarstvennoj dumy -- Shabad, Rybakov,
Borschev, Titenko. V Sernovodsk priezzhali predstaviteli OBSE, voennye
prokurory. Nikto ne podtverdil zajavlenij press-sluzhby rossijskogo MVD o
krupnyx otrjadax boevikov, dudaevskoj bronetexnike i zenitnyx ustanovkax.
Potomu chto nichego etogo v Sernovodske ne bylo.
No selo eto ochen' meshalo odnomu cheloveku. Nekogda moguschestvennomu, a
segodnja prjachuschemusja za spiny sognannyx so vsej Rossii SOBRov i OMONov.
Chelovek etot, Doku Zavgaev, ne prostil unizhenij 91-go, kogda chechenskix
kommunisticheskix funkcionerov vygnali iz Verxovnogo soveta v Groznom.
Kogda prishla pora ubirat' Salambeka Xadzhieva, vdrug poshedshego na
"zamirenie" s otrjadami chechenskogo soprotivlenija, moskovskie pokroviteli
vspomnili pro Doku Zavgaeva. Nastal ego zvezdnyj chas. Chas mesti
sobstvennomu narodu. Imenno on zapugivaet Kreml' "banditskimi
gruppirovkami", zasevshimi v selax, tankovymi batal'onami Masxadova i
millionami dollarov Basaeva. Konec vojny, vyvod vojsk oznachaet polnyj krax
etogo car'ka betonirovannogo ubezhischa, kotoryj panicheski boitsja neskol'ko
raz nochevat' v odnom meste.
Sernovodsk, krupnejshij naselennyj punkt zapadnoj Chechni, otkazalsja prinjat'
naznachennogo Zavgaevym prefekta i prislannyx iz Groznogo milicionerov. V
sele uzhe byla izbrannaja vlast', i sxod zhitelej otkrovenno vyskazal svoe
mnenie o pribyvshix emissarax. Sernovodsk otkazalsja uchastvovat' v poslednix
vyborax. Zavgaev tem ne menee tverdo reshil postavit' selo na koleni. S
oseni proshlogo goda Sernovodsk byl zablokirovan vojskami, nachalis'
izdevatel'stva i vymogatel'stva na blok-postax. Periodicheski federaly
obstrelivali selo: to, vodochki popivshi, pulemetom pobalujutsja, to, buduchi v
durnom nastroenii, iz minometa "shmal'nut". Ved' otvetstvennosti nikakoj. Na
peticii sel'chan Moskva ne reagirovala, rossijskaja voennaja prokuratura,
naduvaja scheki, delala vid, chto razbiraetsja s faktami narushenija zakonnosti.
Poproboval bylo voennyj prokuror ostanovit' izbienie voditelja avtobusa na
blok-postu u Sernovodska, tak general vnutrennix vojsk ego bukval'no v sheju
vytolkal. Razve chto v fil'trapunkt ne otpravil na perevospitanie. A byli by
svobodnye avtozaki, ja uveren, glaza by prokuroru zavjazal i otpravil...
Voennye poxischali ljudej, a potom prodavali ix rodstvennikam za neskol'ko
millionov. Ozverevshaja soldatnja nasilovala zhenschin. Dve devushki posle takogo
pogibli -- rodstvenniki ne smogli vynesti pozora.
Vot v Groznom xodokov iz Sernovodska ponimali. Akkuratno skladyvali v
stopochku zajavlenija zhitelej i gorevali vmeste s nimi: bespredel'nichajut, mol,
Shkirko s Tixomirovym, sovsem naemnikov raspustili. No vyxod est', govorili.
Tol'ko priznajte Zavgaeva, i vse kak-nibud' ustroitsja. Pomozhem.
General Artemov, komandujuschij vojskami v zapadnoj Chechne, pis'menno (!)
uvedomil sel'chan o nanesenii artillerijskix i aviacionnyx udarov po
Sernovodsku, esli zhiteli ne vypolnjat... Dalee, na stranicu, sledoval
perechen' trebovanij generala. V nem ne bylo tol'ko, pozhaluj, objazatel'noj
ezheutrennej chistki general'skix sapog i osypanija BTRov lepestkami roz.
V Sernovodske ponjali, chto Zavgaev v pristupe svoej mesti pojdet na vse. I
pervogo marta selo soglasilos' na podpisanie "mirnogo dogovora" s
pravitel'stvom Zavgaeva. Xotja nikakoj vojny, zamechu, ne velo. Eto
podpisanie dolzhno bylo sostojat'sja v voskresen'e, 3 marta, v 10 chasov utra.
Ljudi vzdoxnuli s oblegcheniem. V noch' s subboty na voskresen'e Sernovodsk ne
obstrelivali! Za poslednie mesjacy eto byla pervaja tixaja noch'. A v shest'
utra vojska s trex storon voshli v Sernovodsk. Voshli, rasstreljav v upor
neskol'ko usadeb, "Zhiguli" s tremja passazhirami... Dal'nejshee razvitie
sobytij izvestno: soprotivlenie gorstki zhitelej; massirovannyj obstrel sela
artilleriej i aviaciej; povtornyj shturm; "zachistka" -- razgrablennye doma;
sozhzhennye trupy v mecheti; rasstreljannyj s BTRov skot; zakrytie
"gumanitarnogo koridora".
Pogrom Sernovodska primechatelen ne tol'ko verolomstvom Zavgaeva,
zhestokost'ju federal'nyx vojsk i bessiliem mezhdunarodnyx gumanitarnyx
organizacij. Zdes' vpervye, odnovremenno s sobytijami v Groznom, federaly
vytolknuli v pervye rjady atakujuschix chechenskij OMON Zavgaeva. Byl sdelan
ser'eznyj shag k "chechenizacii" vojny. Podobnoe vsegda svidetel'stvovalo o
krizise strategii agressora. V Afganistane eto sluchilos' v 1984 godu.
Zapadnye voennye analitiki togda otmetili, chto SSSR, vidimo, gotov vyvesti
svoi vojska. Vyvod sostojalsja tol'ko v 1989. Znachit, do konca chechenskoj
vojny ostalos' 5 let?
Pered samym ot'ezdom iz Chechni mne peredali informaciju o tom, chto
federal'noe komandovanie vydvinulo ul'timatum selu Samashki. Eto kazalos'
nemyslimym. Exo zhutkogo proshlogodnego aprel'skogo pogroma v Samashkax
prokatilos' po vsemu miru. Samashki stali tragicheskim simvolom chechenskoj
vojny. 16 marta 1996 goda korrespondenty Radio "Svoboda" soobschili o
massirovannom obstrele i nachale shturma sela...
Ves' etot strashnyj god, buduchi chlenom Nabljudatel'noj pravozaschitnoj missii v
Chechne, zanimajas' nezavisimym rassledovaniem, gotovja soobschenija dlja pressy i
faktologicheskie spravki, ja stremilsja sderzhat' svoi emocii, izbezhat'
radikalizma v ocenkax, pytalsja byt' nepredvzjatym i otstranennym. Pust'
prostjat menja kollegi-pravozaschitniki, sily moi konchilis', ruxnula plotina...
Eto my vinovny v prodolzhenii etogo nemyslimogo koshmara, my bessil'ny,
neprofessional'ny, truslivy i ravnodushny. My prodolzhaem platit' nalogi dlja
etoj vojny, my, vidite li, ustali ot mitingov i protestov. My dogovorilis'
do togo, chto, pozhaluj, pridetsja podderzhat' na vyborax ubijcu, chtoby ne
prishel kommunist, chtoby ne otnjali u nas vozmozhnost' trepat'sja na
mezhdusobojchikax v podmoskovnyx domax otdyxa. My promorgali, kak k vlasti
prishla krovavaja xunta. I pozvolili ej zalit' krov'ju stranu, pugaja drug
druga gipoteticheskoj ugrozoj krasnogo fashizma. My budem prokljaty za vse
eto. Proschenija nam ne budet.
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"Rebjata dolzhny otdoxnut', prezhde chem im otrezhut ushi"
23/03/1996
Po rasskazu korrespondentov Andreja Babickogo i Aleksandra
Evtushenko, segodnja v naselennom punkte, raspolozhennom vozle
Groznogo i nazyvaemom "103 brigada 15-go molsovxoza" proisxodil
sel'skij sxod, posvjaschennyj popytke podpisat' s zhiteljami i vlastjami
sela tak nazyvaemyj "Dogovor o primirenii". Vystupali ministr
pravitel'stva Doku Zavgaeva i russkij kombrig. Moment dlja
podpisanija soglashenija byl ne ochen' udachnym: vchera prileteli dva
vertoleta, vysadilis' soldaty, sxvatili 8 parnej, zarezali ix,
otrezali im ushi, a odnogo podvesili k vertoletu i sbrosili na
selo. Na vse voprosy starikov russkij general otvechal "malo li kto
sejchas tut na vertoletax letaet".
Po doroge iz sela v Groznyj korrespondenty vstretili kolonnu
avtobusov, soprovozhdaemuju avtomobiljami GAI. Sluchajnyj poputchik
ob'jasnil: "Eto detej vezut otdoxnut' v Nal'chik". Exavshaja s nimi iz
sela zhurnalistka skazala: "Nu da, rebjata dolzhny otdoxnut', prezhde
chem im otrezhut ushi".
Radio "Svoboda" soobschaet o tom, chto zaschitniki Samashek segodnja
otbrosili federalov. Oficial'nye sredstva informacii, naprotiv,
govorjat o tom, chto operacija v Samashkax, vidimo, zavershena. Chto
kasaetsja menja, ja xorosho pomnju - kogda soobschenija "Svobody" nachinajut
rasxodit'sja s soobschenijami TASS (kto by ni okazalsja prav) - eto
trevozhnyj simptom (ja eto zametil osen'ju 1993-go).
Vash Alik
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Hi folks,
I'm looking for New York hotel with moderate prices (not
more than 60-70$ for a single room). Is it possible?
Can you points me out some of them. I will stay in New
York for 4 days. What are the most interesting places in
New York that worth to visit? Do you know how to organize the
location tours? All you advices will be greatly appreciated.
Sergey Armishev
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Hi, Folks!
I am writing on behalf of my father, Alexander Elbert.
He is looking for job in mineral processing field and would like
to get any possible information. He is a high class professional. He used
to work for Moscow Central Research Institute of Geology as head of
the department of Precious and Rare metals.
He collected information about many companies in this field and
willing to share it with any one who need it. And he would appreciate any
helpful information.
Greg Elbert. 76375.1501@compuserve.com
Also:
My friend is immigrating from Russia to USA. He is going to
Los Angeles. I would appreciate if any of you can give me description
of climate/weather in LA around a year. Thank you. I would be gratful
for any useful information about LA to pass my friend.
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Raziskivaetsa SHIMON LERNER, proshivavshij v gorode Soroki (Moldavia)
do 1928 goda i uehavshij v USA s roditelami. V Sorokah ostalas'
sestra Feyga (Fana) s det'mi Semen (Shimon), Mala i Hamma.
Sergey Grits
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Jerusalem 97535
ISRAEL
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I've just received this virus alert from a reliable source:
Manager of Information Systems of our department
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... Second, the following information has appeared
about a "supposed" update to the popular disk
compression program for DOS machines, PK-ZIP:
NEW TROJAN HORSE VIRUS ALERT
A new trojan horse virus has emerged on the internet with
the name PKZIP300.ZIP, so named as to give the impression
that this file is a new version of the PKZIP software used
to ZIP (compress) files. Do not download this file under
any circumstances! If you install or expand this file, the
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*** Repeat: Do not download any file with the name PKZIP300
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Dear folks:
I've got a business trip to Madison, WI and Rochester, MN. They say,
there are Russian communities in both places. If somebody is there,
could I ask for a phone # to ask few questions? Please reply directly to
me. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Zhenya Lifshits. LIEF@MPCS.MSKCC.ORG
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Dear info-rus netters,
Now I am in a position of a job hunter. Unfortunately,
when you are approaching to the Soviet type retired age in
this country it is not easy to find a place to work.
Would any of you people happen to know of any opening or
freelance work would consider an person with my
training and experience?
I have MS in EE, MA in Advanced Math plus many years of
experience in the former Soviet military industry. My experience
also includes several years of teaching advanced Math in a
private school of New York City and at university
level in a college of NJ. As you can see ,I am a fairly well
rounded educated person with some reasonable amount of related
computer experience. I am very good in bringing together new
problems from different fields and solving them.
I can ,of course, send my resume out.
Any suggestions including translation services would be
greatly appreciated. In addition, I would be happy to correspond
with people of my age and background.
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
George Rakova
tel. 201-376-3982
fax. 201-912-8240
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Iam looking for the Leningrad State University Mathematical Department
(MATMECH) alumni.Please reply.
Elena Rakova.
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I am a college student.. I would like to talk to somebody (21 or older)
I live in NJ. Originally from St.Petersburg, Russia. Seven years in the
USA.
More questions? E-mail me.
Masha Rakova
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Hello, everybody,
I would like to solicit your help in distributing a recently started
list of Divrei Torah in Russian. The list goes out via e-mail and fax.
I am especially interested in reaching synagogues and other organizations
that often have a small number of Russians around but lack appropriate
resources in Russian.
Please e-mail or fax this announcement by and the sample issue
to the interested parties.
To Know Freedom by Rav Nosson Sherman available on
http://cad.bu.edu/go/home.html (in a Postscript file)
Thank you very much,
Simcha Streltsov Moderator of Russian-Jews List
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This is a sample issue of the weekly Torah bulletin in Russian
distributed via e-mail and fax.
Please contact us if you would like to receive it regularly or if you
would like to get a full catalog of books published by Shvut Ami.
Previous issues of this bulletin are available on the web page:
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You can help us to reach as many readers as possible by distributing
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benefit from this list.
Hag Pesach Kosher veSameah,
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simcha@shamash.org, phone/fax 617/783-6352
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Shvut Ami is an organization which aim is to help Russian Jews who have
recently arrived to Israel or are coming to Israel soon by teaching Torah
and Hebrew. It is located in Yerushalaim and has more than 100 students.
A publishing house of Shvut Ami was established eight years ago. We publish
literature on Judaism and offer translations from Hebrew and English,
tractates written by Jewish sages, history books, food receipts and more.
To Know Freedom by Rav Nosson Sherman
Pesach: Meaning of the Seder, Preparations for Pesach
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8 punktov tovarischa El'cina
31/03/1996
Itak, segodnja E. provozglasil svoj plan chechenskogo
uregulirovanija, posle chego dal interv'ju trem korrespondentam -
ORT (1-j telekanal), Rossijskogo TV i NTV. Plan okazalsja
dovol'no neozhidannym, da i podan byl effektno: zhurnalistam
razdali ne tot tekst, kotoryj E. zachital, i on ruchkoj u nix na
glazax vnosil pravku.
Plan iz 8 punktov predusmatrivaet prekraschenie "vojskovyx
operacij" s polunochi, otvod vojsk na administrativnuju granicu
Chechni "iz mirnyx rajonov", peregovory s "dudaevskoj storonoj"
cherez posrednikov (pozdnee E. upomjanul o vozmozhnosti
posrednichestva N.Nazarbaeva i Jurija Orlova), finansirovanie iz
federal'nogo bjudzheta tol'ko "mirnyx rajonov", "svobodnye
vybory" v parlament respubliki (vprochem, vybory Zavgaeva
oficial'no tozhe schitajutsja u nas svobodnymi).
Brosaetsja v glaza nekotoraja eklektichnost' plana - punkt o
peregovorax s Dudaevym protivorechit, voobsche govorja, razdeleniju
rajonov Chechni na mirnye i nemirnye (kotoroe proizvoditsja po
principu lojal'nosti Zavgaevu). Vprochem, o "zakonnyx
predstaviteljax chechenskogo naroda" govorilos' tol'ko v buduschem
vremeni, tak chto ostalos' nejasnym, kakova sud'ba Zavgaeva.
Korrespondenty, estestvenno, neudobnyx voprosov ne zadavali.
Otvechaja na vopros o tom, "udalos' li ugovorit' Rotshil'da", E.
skazal, chto boeviki dolzhny oschuschat' sebja moral'no svjazannymi esche
letnim dogovorom i mire (dobaviv s velikolepnoj
neposredstvennost'ju, chto "oni zhe ego i narushili"). Komandujuschij
operaciej general Tixomirov uzhe uspel ob'javit' punkt o
prekraschenii ognja "neosuschestvimym".
Otvechaja na vopros E.Kiseleva (NTV), naxodit li E. sxodstvo s
situaciej v Izraile (Arafat) i Severnoj Irlandii, prezident
soglasilsja, chto sxodstvo sil'noe. Eto vazhnyj moment - pervoe
oficial'noe priznanie, chto nikakogo obschepriznannogo
mezhdunarodnogo obychaja, diktujuschego "unichtozhenie separatistov",
net.
Kiselev otmetil, chto odin iz sovetnikov prezidenta nazval
neprjamye peregovory s Dudaevym "aktom bol'shogo muzhestva,
uchityvaja, chto po oprosam 80% rossijan protiv takix peregovorov".
Kiselev spravedlivo otmetil, chto takie predstavlenija Kremlja o
real'nosti (na samom dele reprezentativnyj opros daet rezul'tat
57:28 za PRJaMYE peregovory E.-Dudaev) porozhdajut strax - kuda
esche mozhet zavesti neadekvatnost' informacii. Dobavim, chto ne
tol'ko nenazvannyj sovetnik, no i sam E. govoril strannye veschi
- naprimer, chto polnost'ju zamireny 2/3 rajonov, tam net
boevikov. Na samom dele na proshloj nedele postupali soobschenija o
bojax v (kak minimum) 7 rajonax iz 12 - ja sam proveril eto po
karte.
Obschij vyvod takoj - xorosho (vo vsjakom sluchae luchshe, chem mozhno
bylo ozhidat'), no pozdno. To zhe reshenie, predprinjatoe do
krovavoj vakxanalii poslednego mesjaca, uzhe imeet kuda men'she
shansov na uspex. Popytka razgroma dudaevcev provalilos', no
poteri mirnogo naselenija i imuschestva sravnimy tol'ko so shturmom
Groznogo - chto esche sil'nee podorvalo shansy ljubyx kompromissnyx
reshenij (prezhde vsego po voprosu nezavisimosti).
Naposledok rasskazhu istoriju pro druguju "nezametnuju vojnu"
Rossii - finskuju. Mirnyj dogovor predusmatrival, chto ogon'
prekraschaetsja v polden'. Pakety s pometkoj "vskryt' v 12:00"
postupili v vojska rano utrom, i soldaty pristupili k
ezhednevnoj smertel'noj rabote - atakam na zaminirovannye
polosy - vot tol'ko finny pochemu-to otoshli i veli tol'ko
artogon'. V 12 chasov pakety vskryli.
I nichego-to ne menjaetsja...
Alik
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Myaso anglijskih beshennyh korov prodaetsya v Rossii. Moskovskij
Komsomolec obnaruzhil 16-kratnoe, za poslednyuyu nedelyu, uvelichenie
postavok govyadiny iz Brazilii v Moskvu. Zhurnalist provel rassledovanie
i sumel vyyasnit', chto govyadina na samom dele idet ne iz Brazilii, a iz
Anglii. Kakie-to novye russkie, proslyshav pro ^mad cow desease^ ,
pochuyali pribyl' i organizovali celuyu cepochku zapadnyh torgovyh
kampanij, ^freight forwarder^ov, rossijskih importerov i kuplennyh
tamozhenikkov, kotorye, okazyvaetsya, uzhe neskol'ko mesyacev
zavozyat britnaskuyu govyadinu. Lyubopytno, chto systema byla
organizovana DO togo, kak nachalas' panika v Evrope, yavno v ozhidanii
skandala. To li novye russkie stali tak horosho razbirat'sya v veterinarii i
prionnyh infekciyah, to li u nih poyavilis' ushi v britanskom ministerstve
zdravoohraneniya. Tem ne menee plan lopnul -- vse isportil, kak vsegda,
stukach, kotoryj pozvonil v MK. Posle vyhoda stat'i, prodazhi govyadiny v
supermarketah upali pochti do nulya, a v odnom iz nih dazhe proizoshla
razborka: novaya russkaya vcepilas' v volosy direktrise, a ee ohranniki
naveshali pilyulej ohrane magazina, kogda ta pytalas' pridti na pomoq'
hozyajke. Ceny na myaso na bazare PODNYALIS' na 30%, prichem
berut tol'ko u prodavcov po-proqe, otkuda-nibud' iz glubinki (nekotorye
sami vystavli na vseobqee obozrenie pasporta s Barnaul'skoj propiskoj).
Pri e'tom, myaso pohuzhe (s kostyami i yavno nizkotovarnogo vida) idet
poluchshe, a otbivnye ne kotiruyutsya.
Est' podozrenie, chto tot zhe novorusskij sindikat ispol'zoval svoyu cep'
dlya pereprodazhi myasa i za predelami Rossii. Nemeckaya policiya uzhe
nachala rassledovanie i ob'yavila, chto osnovanij dlya paniki netu.
---
Nad glavnym kupolom hrama Hrista-spasitelya vodruzhen zolotoj krest
razmerom 6 na 9 metrov. Sobytie bylo s e'ntuziazmom vosprinyato kak
ierarhami pravoslavnoj cerkvi, tak i razlichnymi Druzhin Gavrilychami.
Odnako, nashlis' i nedovol'nye: neskol'ko deputatov Dumy vypustili
protest, v kotorom utverzhdaetsya, chto vragi istinnogo pravoslaviya iz
okruzheniay Luzhkova (kotoryj yavlyaetsya glavnym stroitelem hrama)
sumeli ustroit' provokaciyu i protaqit' skrytyj simvol. Sam razmer kresta,
6x9, a takzhe stilizovannoe chislo 69 yasno razlichimoe v ornamente
kresta, yavlayaetsya propagandoj seksual'noj raspuqennosti i sposobov,
chuzhdyh russkomu narodu i istinnomu pravoslaviyu.
---
Ukrainskya tamozhnya zapretila vvoz ^lap top computer^ov i disket k
nim. Laptopy otbirayutsya v aeroportu, k nim privyazyvayut birochku s
nomerom i sdayut v spec kameru hraneniya. Vydayut na obratnom puti
po pred'yavlenii kvitancii. Diskety izymayutsya dlya proverki i vydayutsya
na sleduyuqij den', esli na nih ne soderzhitsya materialov, moguqih
podorvat' gosudarstvennuyu bezopasnost'.
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-Papa, mozhno ya zavedu rybok?
-Da radi boga...
-Ej, rybki, zahodi!
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Dear folks!
If anyone goes to Kiev this April can
he(she) be so kind as to deliver
birthday present to my girlfriend there.
I can send it to any (normal) country .
Thanks in advance.
Stan Tkatchenko
Department of Physics
La Trobe Uni
Melbourne, Australia
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Generaly popravljajut prezidenta
01/04/1996
Zakonchilsja pervyj den' posle ob'javlenija El'cinym svoego
mirnogo plana. Poka chto mozhno skazat', chto on dejstvoval
tol'ko v "juridicheskom prostranstve" - v ego razvitie izdan
prezidentskij ukaz. V ukaze, kstati, otsutstvuet "sensacionnoe
poslednee dobavlenie" k planu - (neprjamye) peregovory s
Dudaevym.
Govorit', chto uslovija ukaza, v tom chisle ego stat'ja 1 - "v
24:00 31 marta s.g. prekratit' vojskovuju operaciju v Chechenskoj
respublike", vypolnjajutsja, nevozmozhno. Segodnja ves' den'
prodolzhalsja boj, nachavshijsja 31 marta, v Vedenskom uschel'e, gde
blokirovana krupnaja kolonna federalov. Vostochnee, v
Nozhaj-Jurtovskom rajone, prodolzhaetsja intensivnoe nastuplenie
na selo Benoj - s primeneniem vsex vidov tjazhelogo oruzhija.
Neskol'ko umen'shilos' tol'ko ispol'zovanie aviacii.
Vo vsem etom net nichego udivitel'nogo. Dvusmyslennost' i
nejasnost' el'cinskogo plana tolkuetsja generalitetom dostatochno
opredelenno. Segodnja komandujuschij operaciej general Tixomirov
raz'jasnjal v Groznom, v prisutstvii Zavgaeva, svoe ponimanie
razlichnyx punktov plana. Ego tolkovanie BOLEE chem interesno.
1. "Prekraschenie vojskovoj operacii" (po E.) oznachaet, chto
"gorazdo bol'shuju dolju otvetstvennosti za vedenie operacij po
razoruzheniju i unichtozheniju boevikov lozhitsja na vojska MVD"
(kakovoe perekladyvanie otvetstvennosti uzhe ne raz
provozglashalos' i ranee). "Ispol'zovanie vojsk dolzhno
umen'shitsja".
2. Amnistija (etot punkt popal v ukaz v forme poruchenija Dume):
"dudaevskim banditam ne mozhet byt' proschenija".
3. "Neprjamye peregovory s dudaevskoj storonoj": "peregovory
mogut imet' tol'ko odin predmet - sdachu boevikov, slozhenie imi
oruzhija".
Pozicija voennyx, po krajnem mere otchasti, opredeljaetsja
ambiciozno zavyshennoj ocenkoj svoix "uspexov". Eto u nix takoj
punktik vsju etu vojnu: do "pobedy" vsegda ostaetsja chut'-chut',
i ee otnimajut kovarnye politiki.
Reakcija militaristskoj chasti obschestva na plan E. poka ne
vyjavilos'. Otnoshenie oficioza - dvusmyslennoe, tak,
predsedatel' dumskogo komiteta po oborone gen. Roxlin
(chernomyrdinec) skazal (v celom vysoko ocenivaja plan), chto "my
sklonili golovu pered Dudaevym".
Kommunisty gromoglasno i neskol'ko licemerno zhalujutsja na to,
chto E. "podstavil Dumu" - deskat', amnistiruem Dudaeva -
stanem "posobnikami bandita", ne amnistiruem - sorvem mirnyj
process.
Bezogovorochno podderzhan plan poka tol'ko pravoliberal'nymi
krugami (el'cinistami-gajdarovcami). S osuzhdeniem plana (kak
neeffektivnogo, neposledovatel'nogo i nechestnogo) vystupili
Javlinskij, Gorbachev i Lebed'. Takzhe segodnja osudili plan
Sergej Kovalev i Elena Bonner, oficial'no prisoedinivshiesja k
izbiratel'noj kampanii Javlinskogo.
Ocenka v Chechne - ot ironicheskoj do jarostnoj. Dudaev poka ne
vyskazyvalsja.
Naskol'ko ja mogu sudit', eti ocenki kontrastirujut s
entuziazmom, vyrazhaemym zapadnymi pravitel'stvami i pressoj.
Neuzheli opjat' "net proroka v svoem otechestve"? Vy znaete moe
otnoshenie k El'cinu, moe otvraschenie k idee ego pereizbranija -
no ja soznajus' - ja xochu, chtoby pravy okazalis' zapadnye
"optimisty", a ne chechenskie "pessimisty" i russkie "realisty".
Alik
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VNIMANIE! ETO PIS'MO POSLANO S VREMENNOGO ADRESA!
Ne ispol'zujte ego dl'a otveta, pozhalujsta!
(Po etoj zhe prichine ne posylaets'a kirillicheskij variant)
Vtoroj den' "mira". SSSR bez odnoj bukvy
02/04/1996
Segodnja - vtoroj den' dejstvija el'cinskogo "chechenskogo"
ukaza. Kak i vchera, glavnyj punkt - prekraschenie vojskovyx
operacij - sovershenno ne vypolnjaetsja. Prodolzhaetsja jarostnoe
nastuplenie federalov na Dargo i Benoj. Takzhe zhestokie boi s
primeneniem tjazheloj artillerii idut na Bamutskom napravlenii
- Bamut, Orexovo, Staryj Achxoj. Na etom uchastke federaly
neskol'ko prodvinulis'. Naprjazhennoj ostaetsja situacija vokrug
Gojskogo i Alxazurovo. Znachitel'no umen'shilos' tol'ko
ispol'zovanie armejskoj aviacii - eto zametno dazhe po
umen'sheniju chisla proletov samoletov nad Groznym.
Chto kasaetsja pozicii chechenskoj storony, to ona neskol'ko
opredelilas'. Dzh. Dudaev v neobychno dlja nego sderzhannom
interv'ju azerbajdzhanskomu agentstvu "Turan" osudil iniciativu
El'cina i osobenno ee ispolnenie, odnako skazal, chto gotov
prinjat' posrednicheskuju missiju nazvannyx El'cinym lic, prichem
v otlichie ot El'cina, neozhidanno upomjanuvshego prezidenta
Kazaxstana i "odnogo arabskogo shejxa", vpolne blagosklonno
otnessja k posrednichestvu rossijskix grazhdan (prezidenta
Tatarii, Gorbacheva, Javlinskogo i "kogo ugodno, lish' by s
polnomochijami").
Segodnja opublikovan otchet Komissii po pravam cheloveka OON, v
kotorom ukazyvaetsja, chto v xode boev v Chechne pogiblo 2000
detej, neskol'ko desjatkov tysjach mirnyx zhitelej i okolo 10000
soldat rossijskoj armii.
Segodnja El'cin i poklonnik fjurera Lukashenko podpisali
soglashenie ob ob'edinenii Rossii i Belorussii v
konfederativnuju strukturu Sodruzhestvo Suverennyx Respublik
(sokraschenno SSR). Nostal'gicheskoe nazvanie bolee chem ne
sluchajno, esli vspomnit', chto nashe gosudarstvo ne nazyvaetsja
sejchas respublikoj). Soglashenie dopolnjaet podpisannoe tol'ko
chto soglashenie ob ekonomicheskoj integracii Rossii,
Belorussii, Kazaxstana i Kirgizii merami voennoj integracii i
sozdaniem nadnacional'nyx organov upravlenija. Sredi pervyx
reakcij - massovye akcii protesta v Minske (gde na
zapreschennyj vlastjami miting protesta sobralos' ot 7 do 30
tysjach chelovek - vo vsjakom sluchae ne menee, chem na
inspirirovannyj pravitel'stvom miting podderzhki v
voskresen'e). Takzhe Uzbekistan ob'javil o denonsacii torgovogo
soglashenija s Belorussiej.
Osnovnoj smysl etogo ob'edinenija - voennyj. Rossija za
proschenie dolgov (kotorye otnositel'no prevyshajut, naprimer,
ukrainskie) i dal'nejshee finansirovanie belorusskoj ekonomiki
poluchaet prodvizhenie svoix voennyx granic na 1000 km na
zapad. Inkorporacija belorusskoj armii nachinaetsja bukval'no
zavtra - s vkljuchenija sil PVO Belorussii (vidimo, na pravax
okruga PVO) v sootvetstvujuschuju strukturu Rossii. Process
slijanija suxoputnyx sil budet dlitel'nee, odnako voennye
predvkushajut kak preobrazovanie garnizonov belorusskoj armii v
voennye bazy Rossii, tak i prizyv rekrutov iz respubliki v
tradicionno "golodajuschuju bez pushechnogo mjasa" russkuju armiju.
Tak chto belorusskie rebjata, mozhet byt', esche povojujut v
Chechne...
Esli smotret' na proisxodjaschee ne s tochki zrenija vyborov
prezidenta (togda eto udachnyj shag), a processa integracii
ex-USSR, stoit zametit', chto on rezko poljarizuet strany SNG
po stepeni ix gotovnosti k slijaniju s Rossiej. Reakcija
Uzbekistana - tol'ko pervaja lastochka, verojatno nechto
analogichnoe i ot Ukrainy. Dazhe strany "pervogo kruga"
(Kazaxstan i Kirgizija) ispytyvajut neudobstvo.
Alik
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Zdravstvujte. Moej babushke v Kieve nuzhny sldeujuschie lekarstva:
1) Milan-149 ili Nor-Passe
2) Voltaren.
Ser'jezno opasajus', chto v amerikanskoj apteke takogo ne pojmut...
Mozhet kto-nibud' iz vrachej-podpischikov podskazhet kak @to zdes'
nazyvaetsja?
A tak zhe, kak ix kupit' -- ved' prosto tak bez recepta ne dadut...
Spasibo bol'shoe.
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Happy Passover!
Zalpy "mira"
03/04/1996
Segodnja "prekraschenie vojskovyx operacij" vyrazilos' v zanjatii
federalami selenija Centoroj i prodolzhenii tjazhelyx boev v
napravlenii na Dargo. Pokazannye po TV oficery govorili:
"Odnogo boimsja - kak by nas ne ostanovili".
Snova razygryvaetsja skazochka pro neizvestnye samolety. Naletom
frontovoj aviacii (2 shturmovika, 5 zaxodov) razbombleno selo
Shalazhi Urus-Martanovskogo rajona, TOL'KO VChERA podpisavshee
"soglashenie o primirenii" (t.e. o priznanii vlasti Zavgaeva).
20 domov razrusheno, 7 chelovek ubito, 12 tjazhelo raneno.
S krajne rezkimi napadkami na El'cina s militaristskix pozicij
vystupil general Lebed'. Mezhdu tem ego izbiratel'nyj shtab uzhe
ob'javil o ego sovmestnom uchastii v mitinge protiv vojny
sovmestno s S.A.Kovalevym, kotorogo on (ne nazyvaja po imeni, no
oboznachiv vpolne prozrachno) attestuet kak predatelja. Nu,
kak-nibud' vykrutitsja - chaj, ne pervyj v ego zhizni povorot na
180 gradusov.
Politsovet DVR (partija Gajdara) surovo osudil D.Murashova i
S.Kovaleva za podderzhku kandidatury G.Javlinskogo. Oba politika
zajavili, chto ne vyjdut iz partii, no gotovy smirit'sja s
iskljucheniem iz nee.
Dzh.Dudaev ob'javil, chto primet posrednichestvo prezidenta Tatarii
Shajmieva i naznachit svoego posrednika, kotoryj vyedet v Kazan'.
S etoj tochki zrenija predstavljaet osobyj interes UMOLChANIE o
Shajmieve v zajavlenijax El'cina, nazyvavshego kandidatury
Nazarbaeva i "odnogo arabskogo shejxa". Voobsche govorja, obychno
separatisty stremjatsja k internacionalizacii peregovorov, a
"derzhavniki" protivjatsja. Stoit zametit' takzhe, chto rukovoditeli
Chechni-Ichkerii neoficial'no ukazyvali esche osen'ju, chto
udovletvorjatsja "tatarskim variantom". Poxozhe, figura Shajmieva,
stremitel'no vyxodjaschego na rol' lidera regional'nyx elit,
vyzyvaet u E. razdrazhenie.
Segodnja Shajmiev, Nazarbaev i Chernomyrdin vstretilis' v Kazani i
nesomnenno imeli vremja obsudit' etu situaciju.
Alik
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Urgent Action: New Refusenik
Biography of a Russian-Jewish Secrecy Refusenik
NAME: Isaak Kaufman
NATIONALITY: Russian Jew
BORN: 1923 (73 years old)
WIFE: Mousiya (born 1924)
PROFESSION: Engineer of Chemical Technology
ADDRESS: 8th of March St. No. 7, Kv. 26
Biysk, Siberia, 659315
Altayski Krai, Russia
TELEPHONE: (3854) 235-800
RELATIVES ABROAD: One son in the United States
One daughter in Israel
Isaak Kaufman lives with his wife in the town of Biysk, not far
from Novosibirsk, in Siberia, Russia. A chemical engineer, he
worked in a factory which, in the 1970's and early 1980's, did
research on the manufacture of explosive substances for the
military. Russia considers this to be a defense industry.
Kaufman left his job in 1992. He continued to work in the same
complex through 1994 as a consultant but no longer on the "secret"
project itself. He has been accused of seeing, at most, a few
secret documents in 1994. The factory unjustly raised the level of
security classification of the documents.
Kaufman visited his daughter in Israel in 1993. After that, in
1994, he applied for a permanent exit visa to emigrate to the
United States.
In November 1994, the Russian authorities deprived Isaak of his
foreign travel passport on "State Secrecy" grounds until 1999. In
April 1995, he appealed to a special government commission in
Moscow, the MVK, which deals with cases like these. Even though 6
of his co-workers have been allowed to emigrate, the MVK upheld the
emigration ban, accepting the decision not to grant an exit visa by
the Director of the State Committee for the Defense Industries in
Moscow ("Goskomoboronprom"), whose successor is Mr. Zinovy
Petrovich Pak.
Mr. and Mrs. Kaufman have a son living in the Unites States who has
a wife and child. The Kaufmans can receive an entrance visa as
soon as an exit visa is granted. Isaak is practically blind and
his wife suffers from diabetes. Their advanced age and state of
health demands a quick reunification with their families in the US.
Action Alert for Refusenik Isaak Kaufman
To: UCSJ Board, Councils and Affiliates
From: Pamela Cohen, National President
Date: April 1, 1995
Like Refuseniks in the past who were prevented from emigrating
ostensibly for knowing "state secrets," Mr. Kaufman knows about no
technology that is not already well-known in the West. Moreover,
humanitarian considerations argue that this nearly blind, elderly
man be permitted to join his children and grandchild in America.
this refusal constitutes a breach of internationally accepted norms
for freedom of movement. The refusal came from the Ministry of
Defense.
We urge you to write or fax Igor Ivanov, chairman of the inter-
departmental commission which has the authority to reverse the
travel ban imposed on Refusenik, Isaak Kaufman.
Then, send a copy, or even a separate letter, to Mr. Pak and
President Yeltsin. Please send the Union of Councils a copy of
your correspondence.
Please write in a firm but polite manner and remind them that the
Cold War is over and that concerned people in the West urge that
Mr. Kaufman be issued an exit visa immediately.
Your influence is essential to secure the Kaufmans' freedom and
permit them to be reunited with their relatives in the U.S.
Chairman Igor Ivanov
Inter-Departmental Commission
Vosdvizhenka 9
Moscow, Russia
FAX: 011-7-095-290-0865
Mr. Zinovy Pak
State Committee for
Defense Industries
Miusskaya 3
Moscow 125889
Russia
Tel: 011-7-095-972-7445
972-7966
FAX: 011-7-095-250-0758
President Boris Yeltsin
103073 Moscow
Russia
Union of Councils
1819 H. St. NW, Ste 230
Washington, DC 20006
Tel: (202) 775-9776
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Advocacy Update
Semyon Livshits, the reserve major of the Soviet Pacific Fleet who
was falsely accused and convicted of espionage and rape, is set to
be released in July, 1996. Livshits' sentence was reduced after a
world-wide campaign on his behalf, spearheaded by the Union of
Councils' Prisoners Commission, was successful.
Livshits, however, was transferred to a penal camp where many
hardened criminals are imprisoned. Advocates fear that these
criminals might be encouraged by the authorities to provoke
Livshits in order to have an excuse to extend his sentence.
Please write Semyon a letter of support so that he and the
authorities know that the world is monitoring his case.
Semyon Livshits
Krasnoyarsky Krai
Ilansky Rayon
Khairuzovka
Uchrezhdenie U P 288/26
Russia 663850
For more information, please contact the Union of Councils at:
1819 H. St. NW, Ste 230
Washington, DC 20006
Tel: (202) 775-9776
FAX: (202) 775-9776
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Ladies and gentlemen,
I would like to ask you for help with job search.
My study program is completed and I would like to find a
job as a (problem) programer in English-speaking country or
Israel. I have no legal right to work in USA because
of J-1 visa restrictions. I hope that somebody can
tell me about an opportunity of changing my visa or
gives me a real description of existing job restrictions.
I would also be glad to continue my study if supported by
a scholarship, fellowship or assistantship in the area of
Computer Science or Computational Mathematics.
Any ideas and suggestions about possible job, job hunting
or improving my resume will be highly appreciated.
I am available for work after April 28.
I hope that the current version of my resume can be
available by typing of command:
finger -l ivanovy@gauss.cate.fiu.edu or
finger ivanovy@cs.fiu.edu
If this doesn't work, I would only be happy
to email you my resume in reply to your request.
Thank you in advance.
Yura
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Trying to help my friend from Moscow I am looking for Dima Gurenich (he
was a classmate of Misha Vakar). He lived / worked somewhere in Brookline
a year ago and his old e-mail was dig@camsys.com. I have a message for
him.
Any information about him will be appreciate.
Please reply directly to me.
Thanks in advance,
Leonid Khodulev,
Cupertino, CA.
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Hi, folks,
May be those of you who recently received an engineering degree from the
Russian college (or have taught there), will be able to help me. I have to
make a translation of my transcripts which I just received, and since some
items there are abbreviated, I am slightly confused as to what means what.
It's been almost 10 yrs since I took some subjects. I went to the Kazan
Institute of Chemical Technology, Mechanical Facultee, and the subjects in
question are PEK ("e" oborotnoye as in "ekran", "estrada", taken in 3rd
year), and EHP (same "e" oborotnoye). Any input would be really helpful.
Thank you,
Eugene
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From: EVGUENI POLIAKOV
To: info-russ@smarty.ece.jhu.edu
Subject: INFO-RUSS: nalogovyi plach (tax cries)
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Folks, the posting by Zhenya Poliakov is broadcasted by me as
an exception (remember, no taxes, visas, etc.), but it is my
understanding that he is starting (at last) a new subgroup on the
subject
(something like "russ-tax":-). Anyway, once he collect replies on
his posting, he is greatly willing to share any info on the
subject with any other people who are dying to know how not to
pay taxes. When IRS & FBI take you guys into custody, we may
collect a few bucks for all of you, tax-avoiders, to make it
easier for you, poor fellas, to be the guests of generous
US Government...
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Hello, everyone.
I need a help from people who have an experience of filing income taxes.
Yes, I know I bring the issue that everybody, I believe, does not want
to hear ... I would not ..
But I need an advice before April, 15th.
I am a graduate student, citizen of Russia. I do not have a permanent
resident status here , and officially I have J-1 visa (strange enough
it's not F-1). Up to this year I have been told
that there was an official agreement between USA and Commonwealth of
Independent States (then Russia) stating that foreign students getting
support for studying are not subject to taxation. That is indicated in
publication 901 (USA tax treaties) in the chart given there. However,
before the chart, the exemptions, that can be claimed, specify only "the
payments from abroad", but I get paid off by University.
Basically, so far I filled out regular W-4 form where I had claimed
exemption and it was the end of story.
This year a new director of
Payrall Office has diclined my exemption by stating that the agreement I
used before was changed. He, however, has indicated that the money
received from a National Science Foundation grant may not be withheld.
The word "may" means that he said to me that "he himself was confused by
that treaty." He has contacted to Washington DC because I do get the money
from a grant right now, but there was not any answer given so far on his
request.
I have tried to talk with people from IRS about my situation but I
eventually knew nothing from them. Now I ended up with all kinds of
contradicatory facts about this year plus with 200 $ withheld
from the last year and I do not know whether I have to claim it back, or
I actually have to file 1040NR form (for non-residents) to pay around
1,000 debt.
So here I have the whole bunch of questions, and since there is a
lot of Russian students here, may be there is a chance for a
final clarification.
Does any of you know the current status of Russian students,namely:
1) is a Russian student exempt by this treaty in 1996 and under what
circumstances, if any?
2) was I exempt in the previous year, 95?
3) If I was, how I can claim the loss back? What form should be filed and
what contents should be mentioned?
4) If I was not actually exempt, what form should I file?
5) Should the Russian citizens, who are NOT permanent residents of USA,
mail income taxes similar to the process that everybody here goes through
(get a form, see the instructions, subtract and add ...)?
I will very much appriciate any request on this topic, although I would
prefer the "100% -assured" info, or at least "99,99" :). Please reply on
the e-mail address given at the header.
With the best regards,
Evgeni.
P.S. And yes, this is true, I am planning (with anybody else who
is willing to join me) a "russ-tax-visa" mailing list! Anybody welcome!
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: A letter of gratitude from V.F.Ovchinnikov
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Dear friends,
what follows is the letter of acknowledgement by V.F.Ovchinnikov.
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Dorogiye druzya!
Ot dushi blagodaryu teh, kt bez vsyakogo preuvelicheniya vernul
menya k zhizni: professor Kuebler, sdelavshiy operaciyu, skazal,
chto eto byl smertelnyi nomer: eshche 5-6 nedel', i bylo by
pozdno. Poetomu ya schitayu vas vseh vmeste i kazhdogo v
otdelnosti svoimi spasitelyami: navernoye vy dogadyvayetes', cto
dazhe desyataya chast' sobrannoy vami summy moyey semye byla by
nedostupna.
Poskol'ku professor Kuebler - kollega Germana Naumovicha, on
imenno po etoy prichine otkazaksya ot gonorara, i chast' deneg
ostalas'. Posle togo, kak budut proizvedeny okonchatel'nye
raschety s klinikoi, v tom chisle za lekarstva, kotorye
neobhodimo prinimat', kak skazal professor, do konca dney, eta
summa opredelitsya i budet hranit'sya na tom zhe schete, potomu
chto ne isklycheno, chto god spustya ponadobitsya rashiryat'
levuyu arteriyu, gde tozhe est' suzheniye. Esli bez etogo mozhno
budet oboitis', ostavshayasya summa stanet fondom pomoshchi
uchitelyam shkoly nomer 2, kotorye vas uchili. Nadeyus', vse s
takim resheniyem soglastatsya.
Yeshche raz ogromnoye spasibo!
Vash V.F. Ovchinnikov
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When this all began, we promised to send you a list of School 2
graduates. We have already collected addresses of 104 graduates; in
our opinion, this is not enough. It will be appreciated if you send
us coordinates (not necessarily email addresses) of School 2
graduates you're in touch with.
Plese send the info to
serge@ium.ips.ras.ru
Thank you again.
Serge Lvovski
_______________________________________________________________________________
Leonid Charny
College of Engineering, Boston University, 44 Cummington Str., Boston, MA 02215
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Dear folks:
Quite often I can see here and hear from other people questions about
the best way one can translate (and essentially explain) Sov- or
Russian diplomas into English.
The problem is that academic administration in the US universities
simply does not know how Russian academic standards and Russian grades
can be related to those of the US academic system.
Here is a template for Russian Diploma translations which
I developed for my friends. Hope you will find it useful,
Sincerely,
Felix
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DIPLOMA
33333
This Diploma granted to XXXXXX certifies that
he entered the Moscow Institute for Physics and Technology in 3333
and graduated in 5555, completing full coursework of the College of
Molecular and Chemical Physics of the above mentioned Institute
majoring in Radiation Chemistry (Chemical Physics).
By the decision
of the State Examination Board of 25 May 6666
XXXXXXXX
was commissioned as ENGINEER-PHYSICIST.
Chairman of State Examination Board :
Dr. TTTTTTT
Rector (President) of the Institute:
Academician UUUUUUUUU
Secretary
Illegible
Moscow 30 July 8888.
Registration # *****
Ministry of Higher Education of the USSR.
Highest Examination Board
Diploma of Ph. D. of Sciences
M F M #777777
Moscow, November 19, 6666
By Decision of the Scientific Council of the Institute for
Ttttttttttt of the USSR Academy of Sciences
June 5, 9999 ( Protocol #2)
TTTTTTTT is granted the scientific degree
Ph.D. of Physical & Mathematical Sciences.
(Specialty - Biophysics)
Chairman of the Scientific Council
Academician YYYYYY
Academic Secretary
Dr. YYYYYY
Supplement to Diploma
555555555
TRANSCRIPT OF STUDENT RECORDS
(Non valid without a Diploma)
(There are significant differences between the American and Russian
educational systems. Notice that information given in parentheses aims to
clarify the matter to an American reader in terms of the American system.
This information is not contained in the original documents.)
BBBBBBBBBB
During his study from 7777 to 7777 at the College of the Molecular
and Chemical Physics of the Moscow Institute for Physics and Technology
accomplished the following coursework:
(The following scores are in Russian Education System
five-grade scale: Excellent - 5, Good - 4, Fair - 3, Poor - 2)
(Undergraduate Courses) (Russ. Credits Numb.
Total
Scores per sem-r sem-ers Cred.
1. The History of the Communist Party of the USSR Fair (3
1 3 )
2. The Political Economy Good (3 1 3 )
3. Dialectic and Historic Materialism (Philosophy) Excellent
(3 2 6 )
4. The Foundation of Communism Theory Excellent (3 1
3 )
5. Calculus Good (3 4 12)
6. Geometry Excellent (3 1 3 )
7. Differential Equations Excellent (3 2 6 )
8. Theory of Complex Variables Functions Excellent (3
1 3 )
9. Mathematical Physics Equations Good (3 2 6 )
10. Theoretical Mechanics Excellent (3 2 6 )
11. General Physics Good (3 5 15)
12. Theoretical Physics Good (3 3 9 )
13. Chemistry Excellent (3 2 6 )
14. Applied Electronics Excellent (3 1 3 )
15. Engineering Design Excellent (3 2 6 )
16. Foreign Language (English) Excellent (3 6 18)
17. Physical Education Passing (NC) 4 0
18. Laboratory of Physics Good (3 5 15)
19. Laboratory of Chemistry Good (3 2 6 )
________________________________
(Total Undergraduate Credits 132 )
(Undergraduate QPA, Russian five-grade scale: 4.39/ 5.0 ;
Undergraduate QPA transformed into American four-grade scale: 3.51/ 4.0 )
page 2 of 2
(Graduate Courses) (Russ. Credits Numb. Total
Scores per sem-r sem-ers Cred.
20. Laboratory of Physical Methods Excellent (3 1
3 )
21. Laboratory of Chemical Kinetics Good (3 1 3 )
22. Laboratory of Electronics Excellent (3 1 3 )
23. Lab. of Chemical Thermodynamics Good (3 1 3 )
24. Laboratory of Optics Good (3 1 3 )
25. The Theory of the Molecular Structure Excellent (3
1 3 )
26. Physical Methods Fair (3 1 3 )
27. Chemical Kinetics Good (3 1 3 )
28. Chemical Thermodynamics Good (3 1 3 )
29. Special Course (Advanced Technology: R & D) Excellent
(3 5 15)
30. Elementary Processes in Chemical Physics Good (3 1
3 )
Five special (Graduate) Courses (taken at the
Research Institutes of Academy of Sciences);
All individual scores received are Excellent Excellent (3
5 15)
FFFFFFF
Defended his (Masters) Thesis with the Score "Excellent" Excellent
(3 4 12 )
______________________________
(Total Graduate Credits
72 )
(Graduate GPA, Russian five-grade scale: 4.67/ 5.0 ;
Graduate GPA, transformed into American four-grade scale: 3.74/ 4.0 )
Rector (President) of the Institute (Academician)
FFFFFFFF
Dean of the College (Corresp. Memb. of Acad.
Sci.) TTTTTTT
Secretary of the School TTTTTTT
25 May 44444. Moscow.
Register # 333333
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Krysha Rossii edet...
06/04/1996
Predlagaju podborku poslednix vyskazyvanij Prezidenta RF,
kandidata v Prezidenty "na vtoroj srok" (tak, v otlichie ot
drugix kandidatov, zapisano v ego udostoverenii, vydannom
Centrizbirkomom).
(Pri registracii v kachestve kandidata): "Teper' nikto ne smozhet
BOL'ShE zadavat' voprosov, v kakom kachestve ja sovershaju svoi
predvybornye poezdki - Prezidenta ili kandidata. V oboix."
(Vchera v Belgorode, na "vstreche s trudjaschimisja"): "Ja schitaju, chto
deputaty Luk'janov, Varennikov i Ryzhkov dolzhny sidet' ne v Dume,
a v tjur'me". Luk'janov byl amnistirovan, Varennikov opravdan po
obvineniju v uchastii v GKChP Verxovnym Sudom, Ryzhkov nikogda ni v
kakix prestuplenijax ne obvinjalsja.
(Segodnja na s'ezde dvizhenija v svoju podderzhku): "Ja POVTORJaJu -
boevye dejstvija v Chechne PREKRASchENY!!! Ja dal Zavgaevu i Dudaevu
(sic!) telegrammu ob etom. Pust' kto xochet, tot proverjaet..."
Verojatno, esli telegramma El'cina Dudaevu budet dostavlena
adresatu, sledstvennye organy (Dudaev oficial'no v rozyske)
smogut uznat' adres Bol'shogo Dzho prosto na pochte...
"Aktivnaja i dinamichnaja" kampanija E. darit takie perly kazhdyj
den'. Reakcija vlastej i prixlebatelej tozhe dovol'no
zamechatel'na: posle belgorodskogo skandala oni nabrosilis' na
zhurnalistov, obvinjaja ix v "razduvanii" incidenta, "xotja
Prezident prosto poshutil".
Voobsche poezdka v Belgorod vyzyvaet bolee chem strannye voprosy. V
oblasti, pochti pogolovno golosovavshej za KPRF i nesomnenno
sobirajuschejsja golosovat' za Zjuganova, vstrechi s "narodom"
proxodjat v krajne komplimentarnoj obstanovke i pod "spontannye"
vykriki "pravil'no, B.N.!" Chto sie znachit?
Segodnja v Moskve proshel, pri uchastii Javlinskogo, Lebedja, Sv.
Fedorova i Gorbacheva (a takzhe Starovojtovoj, Jushenkova i mnogix
pomel'che) miting protiv vojny v Chechne. Uchastvovalo okolo 1500
chelovek. Zrelische bylo zhalkoe. Voznikaet gromadnyj vopros:
pochemu v gorode, bol'shaja chast' naselenija kotorogo protiv vojny
i ne menee chem tret' kotorogo, verojatno, budet golosovat' za
organizujuschix miting kandidatov, na mirnuju akciju protesta ne
prixodit, grubo govorja, nikto? Ja ne prinimaju ob'jasnenij tipa "a
vy pravil'no ocenivaete svoi rjady?", potomu chto ne tol'ko
oprosy obschestvennogo mnenija, no i, naprimer, kampanii sbora
podpisej dajut milliony otkryto protestujuschix. Naprimer, na
mitinge sobiral podpisi pod rezkoj i tochnoj peticiej Komitet
Soldatskix Materej (po-moemu, edinstvennaja real'no i aktivno
rabotajuschaja pravozaschitnaja struktura v Rossii). Ix kampanija
nazyvaetsja "poltora kilometra podpisej PROTIV" (podpisi
nakleivajutsja na materchatuju lentu) i uzhe blizka k zaversheniju.
Mozhno privesti primery i drugix udachnyx peticionnyx kampanij -
no ne kollektivnyx akcij. Poxozhe, s 1991 goda arxitektoram
Prekrasnogo Novogo Mira udalos'-taki vnesti v russkuju kul'turu
ogromnuju dozu chastnogo elementa i otvraschenija ko vsemu
kollektivnomu, traktuemomu kak "sovok". Posle desjatiletij
sovetskoj vlasti my s voodushevleniem soglasilis' v odinochku
rabotat', zarabatyvat', tratit' - no okazalos', chto vmesto
etogo nam predlagajut v odinochku umirat'. Est' li vyxod iz etogo
tupika? Ja ne znaju.
Alik
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From: "Andrei Andrianov"
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Subject: INFO-RUSS: Pravovoe gosudarstvo, ne koshka nachihala...
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Pravovoe gosudarstvo, odnako...
V Moskve GAI nachalo bylo na zapadnyi maner vyvozit' ploho
priparkovannye mashiny i veshat' braslety na kolesa.
Odnako rossiia - pravovoe gosudarstvo. Poetomu postradavshie
obrashaiutsia v sud, i sud vynosit reshenie:
Dannaia procedura protivorechit konstitucii i grajdanskomu
kodeksu, poskol'ku sobstvennost' grajdanina mojet byt' arestovana
tol'ko po resheniiu suda, kakovogo ne bylo.
Tak chto GAI doljno besplatno otdat' mashinu, a osobo nastyrnym -
eshe i vozmestit' moral'nyi usherb (dollarov v 1000).
Gorodskoe TV reguliarno ehidno soobshaet ob ocherednom iske na
etu temu. Poka chto vse vyigrali.
A vy govorite...
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Dear info-russ folks,
Following the urging by info-russ coordinator, Alex Kaplan,
and having in mind the needs of people of Russ-(or any other
ex-USSR) citizenship, who like me live and work/study in the
USA (and possibly in some other countries in the West) and
have to deal with complicated and often confusing issues of
taxation of our salaries/stipends by our host countries, I am
starting (as I have already stated in my recent posting),
"russ-tax" mailing list;
to be added, write to "epoliako@nmsu.edu".
Anybody interested are welcome to write to me too.
After I sent my first msg describing my tax problems to info-russ
a few days ago, I've got a lot of replies, some of them very useful
and helpful. I am very grateful to all the people who replied.
My decision to start a new list is motivated by a wish to sort of
propagate the line of mutual (and largely selfless) help in our
community; the new list is hoped to be pretty much in the spirit
of info-russ (but not necessarily in its style or substance:-).
I have prepared a file (about 25 kb long) which includes all the
facts and reasonable arguments I've got so far, and it has already
been sent out to my first subscribers. (So I apologize if you are
getting this kind of invitation for the second time.) They are about
30 people who either send me some info or requested for the info I've
received.
The precise mode of operation of "russ-tax" list in the future
is not clear to me at this point. Most likely, I'll commit myself
to broadcasting relevant requests and questions and replies (or
digests of replies) to them, as well as any substantial information
or announcements on the subject. There are no special regulations
developed, and I do not think there will be any except the requirement
that the information presented should be on the subject and the
original message/reply should be informative, and truly "selfless"
(no commercial uses allowed).
This commitment of mine can be also shared with other people
who might be interested to co-handle this new list.
Alex Kaplan, info-russ coordinator, promised to be supportive
and from time to time broadcast our announcements and some info.
Anyway, let us try and see what happens.
A new subscriber is requested to supply his/her e-mail address
and first&last name (it would also be very useful to have at least
your affiliation e. g. the name of your university and your
and position, e. g. grad. student, post-doc, etc., although all
this info is completely optional).
Yours, Evgeni Poliakov.
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phones: (505)-646-4213 (office) (505)-521-0369 (home)
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Reuter, Thursday April 11 4:49 PM EST
Israel Attacks Hizbollah Positions in Beirut
BEIRUT (Reuter) - Israeli helicopters and planes blasted
Lebanon Thursday, rocketing Beirut for the first time in 14
years in an attack on the headquarters of Hizbollah
guerrillas in a southern suburb.
Israel's northern front commander said he believed strikes
against guerrilla targets would last several days and
Hizbollah warned Israel that if they continued it would
strike back.
At least four people were killed and 15 wounded in the raids
which Lebanon said were against seven targets.
The one on Beirut's Haret Hreik district sent black smoke
billowing from one of Hizbollah's most important centres in
the city, destroyed an adjacent two-storey building and
caused panic throughout the capital of 1.5 million people.
... U.S. Secretary of State Warren Christopher directly
blamed Hizbollah for the violence. ``Fundamentally the
problem is created by Katyusha attacks into northern
Israel,'' he said.
The Israeli commander, Major-General Amiram Levine, told
Israel Radio: ``I have explained to the settlements (of
northern Israel) that we are preparing for a lengthy
operation, and they must be patient and have endurance,
organize themselves for a large number of days.''
The raids, seven weeks before Israeli Prime Minister Shimon
Peres faces a general election, followed mounting anger in
Israel at apparent lack of aggressive government reaction to
cross-border attacks by pro-Iranian Hizbollah guerrillas.
``We always said we retained the right to respond how and
where we saw fit,'' Israel's chief policymaker for Lebanon,
Uri Lubrani, told Israeli army radio.
Two days earlier, Hizbollah had rained Katyusha rockets into
northern Israel. The town of Kiryat Shmona bore the brunt of
those attacks which wounded 36 people. Wednesday, a Hizbollah
attack killed an Israeli soldier in the occupation zone.
``Beirut itself must understand that it cannot be quiet there
and less quiet in Kiryat Shmona,'' Israeli Deputy Defense
Minister Ori Orr told Israel radio.
A 60-year-old civilian man was killed in Beirut, and five
people were wounded. The Lebanese army said a motorist was
also killed and four people were wounded on a southern
coastal road in attacks by Israeli helicopters.
A Lebanese soldier died and others were wounded when an
Israeli helicopter attacked a checkpoint near the southern
city of Tyre. And later in the day, Israeli helicopters
launched two more raids, killing one person and wounding two
by the village of Shehour, near Tyre, security sources said.
Israeli aircraft also rocketed a Hizbollah position near
Baalbek in the eastern Bekaa Valley and two other posts in
south Lebanon. It was not known if casualties resulted.
Witnesses in Kiryat Shmona, whose residents have spent nights
in bomb shelters fearing Katyusha attacks, reported sonic
booms from fast-flying aircraft. Children and some women were
being evacuated while men took to shelters as a precaution
against more Hizbollah attacks.
Hizbollah said Thursday it would retaliate for Israel's air
raids on Lebanon by bombarding northern Israel settlements
and other targets.
``We will respond to today's aggression by bombarding the
settlements,'' Hizbollah's leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah
said in a televised statement.
``We will shell the settlements in northern Palestine. I
won't say when, whether tonight, tomorrow or any other time.
They have to wait,'' the head of the pro-Iranian Islamic
guerrilla group said.
Hizbollah's response for the bombardment of Beirut would be
different and would astonish Israel, he said.
Hizbollah rockets wounded 36 people in northern Israel
settlements Tuesday, triggering Israel's retaliatory air
strikes at suspected Hizbollah targets in Beirut and
elsewhere in Lebanon Thursday. Four people were reported
killed in the attacks.
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Pokushenie na Masxadova - detali i voprosy
10/04/1996
V selenii Cocin-Jurt soversheno pokushenie na nachal'nika shtaba
(real'nogo komandujuschego) chechenskoj armiej Aslana Masxadova. V
rezul'tate vzryva bomby s distancionnym vzryvatelem ubito 11
chelovek, v tom chisle chetvero detej (nachinaja s 7-mesjachnogo).
General Masxadov pribyl v ravninnoe selo Cocin-Jurt (na vostoke
Central'noj Chechni, v 10-13 km ot Shali, Arguna i Gudermesa) na
religioznuju ceremoniju, proxodivshuju na mestnom kladbische. Vo vremja
ego vystuplenija s rech'ju, vzorvalas' bomba bol'shoj moschnosti,
zalozhennaja pod tribunu, na kotoroj on naxodilsja pri predyduschem
poseschenii sela. Po pervym rezul'tatam rassledovanija, obnaruzheny
elementy sistemy distancionnogo vzryva, chto iskljuchaet rannjuju
versiju - srabatyvanie chasovogo mexanizma, nezavisimo ot real'nyx
peredvizhenij "ob'ekta".
Brosaetsja v glaza, chto pri proshloj popytke peremirija zhertvoj
pokushenija stal partner Masxadova po peregovoram general Romanov.
Esli posledujuschee rassledovanie podtverdit ispol'zovanie
distancionnogo provodnogo ustrojstva, sovpadet i v detaljax pocherk
ubijc - kak s delom Romanova, tak i s bolee rannim pokusheniem na
Lobova. Neuspex pokushenija mozhno ob'jasnit' tem, chto
neposredstvennye ispolniteli teraktov chuvstvujut sebja v Groznom
gorazdo vol'gotnee, chem vne ego (ja imeju v vidu, chto naibolee
verojatnym _ispolnitelem_ teraktov protiv Lobova i Romanova byl,
po mneniju chrezvychajno informirovannogo R.Xasbulatova, chelovek
groznenskogo mera Beslana Gantemirova).
Osveschaja dlja zhurnalistov etot terakt, dudaevskij ministr
informacii Movladi Udugov zaodno izlozhil nekotorye detali
pokushenija na Salmana Radueva. Po ego slovam, Raduev byl obstreljan
dvumja chechencami, poluchil kasatel'noe ranenie v golovu, pochti
poterjal zrenie na odin glaz. Pogib esche odin (ne nazvannyj po
imeni) polevoj komandir. Odin iz streljavshix zastrelen, vtoroj
sxvachen. On pokazal, chto po mneniju ego nanimatelej, v mashine
dolzhen byl exat' Shamil' Basaev. Udugov takzhe reshitel'no oproverg
sluxi, chto ubit otec Radueva. Kogda porazhennye zhurnalisty
peresprosili, verno li oni ego ponjali (vse rossijskie agentstva
soobschali ob ubijstve Raduevyx i tjazhelom ranenii Masxadova
neskol'ko ranee), on skazal: "Ja sam ne ponimaju, chto proisxodit -
rossijskie voennye dokladyvajut ochen' uverenno, ssylajutsja na
istochniki, kotorye oni schitajut ochen' nadezhnymi. Mozhet byt', eto
chast' kakoj-to igry".
Vse poslednie dni rossijskie SMI (v tom chisle liberal'nye)
xranili molchanie o sobytijax v Chechne (krome transljacii oficial'nyx
pobednyx reljacij tipa "boevyx dejstvij ne vedetsja, no bandity
polnost'ju unichtozheny esche v dvux rajonax"). Eto svjazano s krajne
dvusmyslennoj situaciej, v kotoroj okazalsja El'cin. S odnoj
storony, on ne uluchshil svoix otnoshenij s demokraticheskoj
oppoziciej, tak kak ego ukaz po Chechne privel ne k miru, a k
usileniju boev. S drugoj storony, kommunisty na polnuju katushku
ekspluatirujut [kazhuscheesja?] protivorechie mezhdu E. i voennymi,
vsecelo stanovjas' na ix storonu. Spiker Dumy Seleznev ob'javil,
chto ubedilsja - rossijskaja armija ne bombila Shalazhi i Katyr-Jurt, i
gotovit Dumu k prinjatiju agressivnyx postanovlenij. Otsjuda
stremlenie proel'cinskix SMI (a na segodnja eto 100%
nekommunisticheskix SMI) zamolchat' skol'zkie temy, poka situacija
xotja by nemnozhko ne projasnitsja. Dostatochno skazat', chto
vzryvoopasnaja situacija, svjazannaja s tem, sto TASS obvinil
Azerbajdzhan i Turciju v bombezhkax etix sel, ne vyzvala nikakoj
polemiki.
Segodnja situacija nemnogo izmenilas'. Opublikovany bez
kommentariev rezkie protesty Azerbajdzhana, a bredovye zajavlenija
glavkoma VVS, chto chechency "imitirujut bombovye udary", soobschajutsja
kak "daleko ne istina v poslednej instancii".
Krome togo, telekompanija NTV s xarakternoj preambuloj "vse
poslednie dni my peredavali informaciju, isxodjaschuju preimuschestvenno
s odnoj storony" soobschila ob istinnoj obstanovke v zone zhestokix
boev i pokazala kartinki "plotno osazhdennogo" Gojskogo. Na ulicax
- trupy soldat, kotoryx, nesmotrja na predlozhenija chechencev,
otkazyvajutsja zabrat'. Zdes' byl razgromlen batal'on VDV - pogiblo
okolo 30, raneno bolee 100. Takzhe podtverzhdeno, chto gruppirovka,
zanjavshaja v poslednie dni sela Benoj i Dargo, popala v okruzhenie i
utratila nazemnuju svjaz' s ravninoj.
Vprochem, nekotorye oficial'nye kommjunike vygljadjat esche bolee
stranno. Tak, voennye zajavljajut, chto "razgromlennye povsjudu v
gorax boeviki peremeschajutsja v Shali". Shali - eto rajcentr
(nominal'no selo, prakticheski gorod, i nemalen'kij) na ravnine, v
20 km ot Groznogo. Te, kto sochinjajut eti svodki, vidimo, ne
smotrjat na kartu.
Smotret' televizor sejchas - tjazhkaja rabota. 90% nerazvlekatel'nyx
peredach - reklama E. Prichem po stilju primerno takaja, kak v dni
75-letija Brezhneva. Eto privodit k ochen' interesnomu effektu: pri
tom, chto golosovat' za E. sobirajutsja okolo 20% izbiratelej, 50%
uvereny, chto on budet prezidentom. Predvybornyj shtab E. po povodu
poslednej cifry ustroil prazdnik...
Alik
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Dear folks,
A few months ago I started a new list for students from
Russia. We are alive (approaching 400 subscribers) and have
nice discussions going. Any fellow subscribers of INFO-RUSS
are welcome to be part ot it too.
Sincerely,
Dima Panasevich.
______________________________________________________________________
In the Fall of 1995, I started a new discussion list, RUSPEAK-L.
The subscribers include folks from all five continents. Our recent
discussions are about Us and Them (what we like and dislike about our life
in the US), Russia: Past and Present
The purpose of the list is business and leisure
information exchange, discussion of the issues that are of
interest to students and young professionals from Russia.
RUSPEAK-L is also for those who have friends in Russia or
speak Russian, and those who are willing to listen and
to share what they have to say.
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Folks, there is an urgent need to pass a letter from St.Petersburg
(Russia) with college transcripts and application for a position in the US.
It must beat the April 25 deadline and won't contain military or any other
secret information :-). Many thanks in advance!
Sasha
Alexander Gorodinsky
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Washington University
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Sobitiya razvivalis stremitelno.
V nachale proshloy nedeli bili ybiti pri odnom
iz obstrelov pozitchiy organizachii "Hizbolla"
2 mirnix zhitelya. Izrail priznal, chto oni bili ybiti po oshibke.
Otvetniy obstrel "Katyushami" goroda Kiryat Shmona v odin iz dney
prazdnika "Pesah" privel k chelovecheskim zhertvam/neskolko raneniy sredney
tyazhesti/, materialnomy ycherby /neskolko millionov dollarov/
i rezkomy izmeneniyu obchestvennoy atmosferi.
Pravitelstvo dalo armii "kart-blansh" na deystviya protiv "Hizbolli"
Voyenniye deystviya preovodyatsya po princhipy samogo
minimalnogo ycherba dlya naseleniya i zhivoy sili protivnika, kotoriy
mozhno predstavit. Radiostanchii Yuzhnogo Livana peredayut zaraneye
nazvaniya dereven, po kotorim bydyt naneseni ydari,
dayut vremya na polnuyu evakyatchiyu i tolko posle etogo
razryshayut ob'yekti "Hizbolli". V perviy den v
Beyrute bila razryshena shtab-
kvartira "Hizbolli" na 1-om etazhe 10-etazhnogo doma raketnim ydarom
vertoletov po oknam etoy kvartiri/ostalniye etzhi ne postreadali/.
Soglasno izrailskim kommentatoram sverxsderzhannaya reakchiya USA govorit
o polnoy podderzhke deystviy Israilya. Otvetniye obstreli "Katyushami"
naselennix punktov Israilya na severe poka svelis k odnomy tyazhelomy
raneniyu zhenchini i nanesli materrialniy ycherb
v neskolko desyatkov millionov
dollarov. Naseleniye Israilya i vse vedychiye politicheskiye sili polnostyu
podderzhivayet deystviya pravitelstva. Deti iz Kiryat Shmoni
i dr. evakuirovani, vzrosloye naseleniye naxoditsya v obstanovke voyennogo
vremeni v ybezhichax. Prezident Israilya Weizmann
provel noch s zhitelyami Severa v ybezhiche.
Voyenniye zayavlyayut chto im ponadobitsya nedelya-dve
dlya okonchaniya operachii. Diplomaticheskoye resheniye, na kotoroye Israil
soglasen zaraneye - garantii Siriyey i Livanom prekracheniya obstrelov
naselennix pynktov Israilya terroristami "Hizbolli", kotoriye deystvuyut
pri soglasii Sirii, kontrliruyuchey Livan i Irana, perevodyachego im dengi s
pomochyu Sirii.
R.Kris
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Hi, folks!
Can anyone recomend me a really good doctor in Moscow who
can treat asthma("astma" in russian) or any russian asthma
news groups?
Greg Elbert 76375.1501@compuserve.com
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Restavraciya CCCP idet polnym hodom. Elkin podpisal ukaz, vozvraqayuqij
krasnyj flag. Dlya nachala, on budet reyat' vo vremya voennogo parada
pobedy 9 maya na Krasnoj ploqadi. A sledom za serpastym i molotkastym
prishel i ego vernyj sputnik, "rasprostranenie zavedomo lozhnyh sluhov,
porochaqih sovetskij gosudarsvennyj i obqestvennyj stroj" :
^Valeriya Novodvorskaya is facing criminal
charges for "repeatedly expressing opinions and spreading ideas
suggesting the inferiority of the Russian nation," It said she used
"tendentiously selected facts and false statements about the Russian way
of life" to generate "negative attitudes toward people of Russian
nationality." ^
Ne dolgo muzyka igrala...
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From: Andrei Andrianov
Idet po ulice babushka, s ogromnoi sumkoi myla, spichek, soli...
Prohojii: Babka, ty chego?
Babka: Tak ved' skoro kommunisty pridut, i nichego etogo ne budet!
Prohojii: A ty za kogo golosovat'-to budesh'?
Babka: A za kommunistov!
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evrei, chechency, kommunisty...
16/04/1996
Avtoritetnaja sociologicheskaja sluzhba RAMIR provela issledovanie
otnoshenija rossijan k evrejam, sdelav, krome togo, primechatel'nye
sopostavlenija.
Po celomu rjadu parametrov, xarakterizujuschix, tak skazat',
intellektual'nyj plan etogo otnoshenija, rezul'tat okazalsja
dovol'no udruchajuschim. Tak, 51% smogli otvetit' na vopros, chto
takoe Osvencim, Daxau i Treblinka (v Germanii 96%, SShA 76%). Po
ostal'nym voprosam takogo zhe plana ("kakoj znak nosili evrei na
odezhde v Germanii", "skol'ko evreev pogiblo vo vremja II mirovoj
vojny") v Rossii bylo men'she vsego pravil'nyx otvetov (v Germanii
na vse voprosy bolee 90% pravil'nyx otvetov, a blizhe vsego k
Rossii po urovnju neznanija priblizilas' Amerika).
S drugoj storony, na vopros, xoteli by vy imet' evreja svoim
sosedom, otricatel'no otvetili vsego 18%. Primechatel'ny (xotja i
ne neozhidanny) variacii etogo parametra v zavisimosti ot
politicheskix pristrastij oproshennogo. Oni neznachitel'ny: 29%
LDPR, 18% KPRF, 12% NDR (chernomyrdincy), 8% Jabloko.
Situacija s ksenofobiej v Rossii ochen' trevozhnaja, no v nastojaschee
vremja ne dlja evreev. Na analogichnyj vopros otnositel'no drugix
etnicheskix grupp otvety byli sledujuschie: ne zhelajut zhit' v
sosedstve s chechencami 50%, cyganami 45%, armjanami,
azerbajdzhancami, gruzinami okolo 35-40%. Te zhe cifry, chto u
evreev, zafiksirovany u tatar, litovcev, latyshej i estoncev.
Glavnyj sociolog "prezidentskogo TV" (ORT) Vsevolod Vil'chek,
kstati, skazal, kommentiruja xarakternye osobennosti "chechenskogo
mirnogo plana" El'cina (chto vojna usilivaetsja pod mirnye
razgovory): "Na samom dele, byt' mozhet, eto ideal'naja strategija
pobedy na vyborax. My oprosili neskol'ko soten rukovoditelej
regional'nyx telekanalov, i 80% iz nix schitajut - mir mozhno
zakljuchat' tol'ko posle pobedy. Eti ljudi, nesomnenno, pravil'no
chuvstvujut nastroenie mass. I El'cin instinktivno delaet imenno
eto". Stoit zametit', chto nikakie prjamye oprosy naselenija ne dajut
i blizko takix rezul'tatov, tak chto Vil'chek lukavit. Zato stali
jasny dve veschi - masshtaby promyvanija mozgov v *svobodnoj* Rossii,
i otkuda kremlevskie sovetniki vzjali cifru "80% naselenija za
vojnu do pobednogo konca".
Vojna tem vremenem idet svoim cheredom. Tjazhelejshie boi idut v
Vedenskom uschel'e, v Gojskom, Bamute, gornom Shatojskom rajone,
ravninnom Shalinskom. Srednesutochnye poteri federalov - samye
vysokie s momenta vzjatija Groznogo. Sobstvenno govorja, proisxodit
imenno rastjanutyj po vremeni shturm Groznogo - operacija s
politicheskimi celjami, ne schitajuschajasja s poterjami. Pri toj stepeni
kontrolja nad informaciej, o kotoroj govoril Vil'chek, mozhno
pozvolit' sebe vysokie poteri - TV o nix ne soobschaet, zato iduschie
kazhdyj den' pobednye reljacii v'edajutsja v soznanie obyvatelja. Malo
kto sopostavit, chto v svodkax figurirujut odni i te zhe vzjatye
sela. I uzh tem bolee malo kto vstrepetnetsja posle segodnjashnego:
"Press-centr MVD i MO soobschil, chto posle moschnyx udarov rossijskoj
armii Dudaev ne raspolagaet bol'she edinoj voennoj siloj,
upravljaemoj iz odnogo centra, a tol'ko razroznennymi
formirovanijami". Bol'shinstvo i ne vspomnit, chto iskrenne verili,
chto tak ono UZhE est', s marta 1995 goda...
Vil'chek i prjamo kosnulsja temy manipuljacii soznaniem v svjazi s
vyborami. Ego frazu stoit procitirovat':
"Vse kandidaty, krome E. i Z., besperspektivny xotja by potomu,
chto ni Javlinskij, ni Lebed', ni Fedorov ne poluchat dostupa k
efiru. Eto vxodit v scenarij kampanii".
Esche sobytie: Rossija vydala Azerbajdzhanu prigovorennogo tam k
rasstrelu byvshego ministra oborony, obvinennogo v neeffektivnom i
"predatel'skom" vedenii vojny s Armeniej. Ozhidaet vydachi
eks-prezident Mutalibov - tozhe po chisto politicheskomu obvineniju.
"Byvali xuzhe vremena"...
Alik
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These are days of rememberance of holocaust.
They are chosen as 50 anniversary of Nurenberg Trial;
so it goes by the date of official verification of
mass murder of 6 million of Jews, and not by any of
the dates marked by a big blood... But after all, the date
is not of great significance. Has anybody learned
anything? Some people and countries did. United States
did; that is why a great part of info-russ subscribers
arrived in this country allowed to come here as refugees.
Neither government nor people of this country wanted
to have that hard stone left on the collective conscience
after the end of 1930-ties when most of refugees from
Nazi Germany were not allowed to enter the USA.
We became (sometimes unappreciative) beneficiaries of that bitter
memory. Don't forget it, my subscriber. A little remembrance
woudn't hurt us, anyway; you spend a minute to read this text,
60 seconds, 1 second for each 100,000 alive souls exterminated
by Nazis, yet keep remembering...
It is sort of a very quiet remembrance; in Israel though,
sirens torn the silence apart for two minutes; the traffic
came to the still on the highways, people got out of their
cars and listened...
This was the biggest learning of all that came out of
holocaust: creation of the state of Israel by the Jews
who came to Palestine during the war and after it.
>From then on, the Jews can control their fate and destiny.
And not only those Jews who live in Israel. Each one of us
who used to have the "wrong" fifth paragraph back in
Russia and who feel much better here, in the States (I do:-),
still feel deep in their hearts that there is an ultimate
place of retreat out there, on that little stretch of
land in the Mediterranean. Don't forget this either.
After all, strong Israel is a good insurance policy:-).
When Israel is bombarded by Hezbolla, don't forget who
supplied them with Russian-made "Katyusha" rockets.
Those rockets are still aiming at that little six-point
star affixed against your heart from your birth, my friend,
be you here, there or anywhere. Amen.:-)
--Zai gizynt, my subscriber, no matter what is your
"fifth paragraph" as long as you are "a mensch".
-- Alex Kaplan, INFO-RUSS owner/coordinator
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18/04/1996
..........
Rjad vidnyx predstavitelej intelligencii - D.Lixachev,
B.Okudzhava, B.Strugackij i drugie prizvali nas: "Spokojno
opustite svoj bjulleten' za El'cina". Eto prozvuchalo tak
ubeditel'no, chto dazhe fjurer RNE Barkashev vnjal - segodnja
opublikoval zajavlenie "Nyneshnij prezident ustraivaet russkix
nacionalistov, poetomu nikakix drugix kandidatov nam ne nado".
Tem vremenem v Chechne, nepodaleku ot rajcentra Shatoj, vchera
razgromlena krupnaja bronekolonna federalov. Podbity bolee
desjatka bronemashin, zaxvacheny chechencami v ispravnom sostojanii
dva tanka, ubito okolo sta soldat. Spastis' udalos' 13
chelovekam. Poteri chechencev - 3 ubityx i 6 ranenyx, iz nix troe
- tjazhelo. Shatojskij rajon schitalsja nadezhno "zamirennym".
Segodnja federal'nye vojska, na protjazhenii mesjaca bezuspeshno
shturmujuschie Gojskoe, prigrozili, chto pri sledujuschej atake
primenjat otravljajuschie veschestva. V ravninnom rajcentre Shali
(de-fakto nejtral'nom gorode) segodnja pachkami gruzili
protivogazy na mashiny, iduschie v predgor'e.
Razgrom v Shatoe. El'cin s krasnym flagom.
19/04/1995
Obnarodovanie svedenij o razgrome svodnoj kolonny rossijskix
vojsk u selenija Jaryshmardy Shatojskogo rajona (boj proizoshel v noch'
s 16-go na 17-e, pervye publikacii o poterjax pojavilis' vecherom
18-go, prichem oni ocherednoj raz podtverdili tochnost' chechenskix
istochnikov - okolo 100 ubityx) proizvelo moschnyj, no neskol'ko
pokaznoj effekt. Sobralos' zasedanie Dumy, vyzvali Gracheva...
Mezhdu tem, za poslednie nedeli eto dazhe ne samyj krupnyj razgrom
federalov, no ostal'nye sluchai krupnyx poter' ne doshli do Dumy
ili nashego svobodnogo TV.
Na zasedanii Dumy bylo mnogo interesnogo. Tak, Grachev ob'javil,
chto im izdana direktiva "na osnovanii trebovanija Prezidenta -
Verxovnogo Glavnokomandujuschego vvesti ogranichenija na boevye
dejstvija s ispol'zovaniem aviacii i tjazheloj artillerii",
datirovannaja 6 aprelja - na nedelju pozzhe, chem, po pozavcherashnemu
zajavleniju E "zakonchilas' vojna". Grachev staratel'no otmezhevyvalsja
ot mirnogo plana i otkryto ego kritikoval. Zhirinovcy prizyvali k
polnomu istrebleniju chechencev. V tex predelax, v kotoryx vozmozhno
perevesti isteriku na jazyk prikazov, generaly vnjali imenno etomu
scenariju. Segodnja izdan prikaz komandujuschego vojskami v Chechne
generala Tixomirova. Pomimo obschego zajavlenija o "polnoj
nevozmozhnosti kakix-libo peregovorov s byvshimi praviteljami
Chechni", on prikazyvaet "perejti k taktike sploshnyx atak na
boevikov po vsej territorii, podvergaja odnovremennym moschnym
udaram vse naselennye punkty, v kotoryx budut zamecheny boeviki".
Poka chto aviaudar naselen po selu Arshty v Ingushetii. Po soobscheniju
prokurora respubliki, pogiblo okolo 20 chelovek. Podrobnosti poka
neizvestny.
Znachitel'naja rossijskaja gruppirovka voshla v gorod Shali. V
predgor'jax - boi tam zhe, gde vse poslednie nedeli, i s temi zhe
rezul'tatami.
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Na servere www.online.ru/mlists/expchronicle/ (v kodirovke
KOI-8) stat'ja, kotoruju ja predlagaju Vashemu vnimaniju kak interesnuju,
xotja ja ne podpisalsja by pod nej.
Pod nej podpisalas' Natal'ja Xmelik :-)
Kto tam mashet krasnym flagom?
Natal'ja XMELIK
19-04-96
Prezident El'cin sdelal ocherednoj predvybornyj shag -- podpisal
ukaz o ravenstve rossijskogo gosudarstvennogo flaga i krasnogo
znameni. Poka tol'ko vo vremja torzhestv, svjazannyx s pobedoj v
Velikoj otechestvennoj vojne, no, kak izvestno, lixa beda nachalo.
Rassuzhdenija ob istoricheskoj cennosti krasnogo znameni i prijatnyx
vospominanijax, svjazannyx s etim polotnischem u nekotorogo
kolichestva rossijan, nikogo ni v chem ubedit' ne mogut. Pri
nyneshnem pljuralizme nikto ne meshal ljubiteljam krasnogo znameni
progulivat'sja po ulicam i ploschadjam s kumachom v rukax po sluchaju
ljuboj znamenatel'noj dlja nix daty, a to i voobsche bez vsjakogo
povoda. Tak chto v smysle pljuralizma i terpimosti prezidentskij
ukaz nichego ne dobavil. On svidetel'stvuet lish' o zhelanii vyrvat'
krasnyj flag iz ruk Zjuganova i lichno vozglavit' kommunisticheskuju
kolonnu, shestvujuschuju na izbiratel'nye uchastki.
Stoit vspomnit' -- nyneshnie rossijskie praviteli nachinajut
rassuzhdat' ob uvazhenii k istorii lish' togda, kogda u nix ne
xvataet duxa razdelat'sja s kommunisticheskim naslediem. Imenno
poetomu do six por lezhit v mavzolee kommunisticheskaja mumija.
Imenno poetomu odin iz glavnyx moskovskix prospektov po-prezhnemu
nosit imja ljudoeda. Imenno poetomu ulicy rossijskix gorodov
ukrashajut kamennye kommunist